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Gone
The desire to succeed. I've been working my ass off to get perfect grades in school so it will all pay off once I graduate.
Grades don't matter anywhere outside of a classroom.
Actually the firms that hire people for six figure starting salaries do so right out of T14 schools, which accept people based on 45% GPA, 50% LSAT score, and 5% extras. So yes, in the field I'm going into grades not only affect your ability to get a job, but are an absolute necessity in getting a well paying job.
Now pardon me while I go think of a non conceited way of saying do your research next time...
Post by
Interest
#369: What drives you?
What is your personal motivation to carry on, to try and do better, to improve yourself, or simply to go on living?
Well according to the instruction manual, what drives me is a 2.25 PW multi-purpose Negatrix Energy Core.
I am answering this correctly, right?
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Post by
ElhonnaDS
Other people. I'm generally much more driven when it comes to things for other people, or to do things when it's a social activity, than I am on my own.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
To crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation of their women
Honestly, it's probably the fact that one day I might have kids that motivates me the most.
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Post by
Rankkor
my baby.
Sure, many things motivate me (A desire to not let the PCV win, they sent me to a horrible place to die, I intend to show them how much they failed by becoming a very successful chef) but none drive me as hard as my girl.
I want her to be a better person than I am, to live a better life than I have, to have a future more stable than I do, and to be able to live a safe life unlike mine. I want her to have all the things I lacked during my own childhood, and to become a woman others can look up to and admire.
This is a very dark, grim, and depressing world, so I wanna leave behind a little light in it. Almost everything I do, I do it for her.
Post by
Squishalot
Family and money. Usually in that order.
Post by
Mike
Pursuing my actual career... nothing is driving me at the moment. I have too much going on at the moment to continue my Game Design work.
Getting out of bed in the morning? What's driving me to do that is that if im late to work i'd get fired and have no money :)
Post by
Sagramor
The desire to succeed. I've been working my ass off to get perfect grades in school so it will all pay off once I graduate.
Grades don't matter anywhere outside of a classroom.
Actually the firms that hire people for six figure starting salaries do so right out of T14 schools, which accept people based on 45% GPA, 50% LSAT score, and 5% extras. So yes, in the field I'm going into grades not only affect your ability to get a job, but are an absolute necessity in getting a well paying job.
Now pardon me while I go think of a non conceited way of saying do your research next time...
Fine, I should've said "
rarely matter
". As to research, I was just basing it on personal experience, because I totally was like you when I was your age, believe me. What made me get all pointy with you (which I'm begging to notice is sort of a trend between us, huh?) is that you correlated success with grades, which is in no way the case.
As for research on that topic, you can look at the cases of Chris Langan; the life-long research of Professor Lewish Terman (who pioneered the concept of IQ, and sustained throughout his life that it was directly related to success, only to find after his 30-year live experiment ended that it didn't); the individual cases of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.
All in all, I recommend you read a
marvelous
book on the subject by Malcolm Gladwell, named
Outliers: The Story of Success
(Little, Brown & Company. New York, NY, 2008).
HOWEVER, I still sustain that the correct answer for everyone is 'sex'. Biology people, you can't fight it.
Post by
Gone
What made me get all pointy with you (which I'm begging to notice is sort of a trend between us, huh?) is that you correlated success with grades, which is in no way the case.
Well, I couldn't help but find it a teensy bit insulting that somebody responded to the work I had done towards a goal by saying it didn't really matter, as if I hadn't done my own research on the subject. It's true that success depends more on, work ethic, personality, the ability to ass kiss, and ladder climbing (in that order), but in my case before any of that cam be implemented you have to have good grades, just to be able to qualify to the opportunity. One could also argue the correlation between getting good grades and work ethic.
Post by
Squishalot
Professor Lewish Terman (who pioneered the concept of IQ, and sustained throughout his life that it was directly related to success, only to find after his 30-year live experiment ended that it didn't)
IQ is only partially related to grades and academic success.
Perfect grades will pay off in terms of opening up avenues for you to succeed. Actually taking advantage of those avenues is up to you.
Post by
Rankkor
Professor Lewish Terman (who pioneered the concept of IQ, and sustained throughout his life that it was directly related to success, only to find after his 30-year live experiment ended that it didn't)
IQ is only partially related to grades and academic success.
Perfect grades will pay off in terms of opening up avenues for you to succeed. Actually taking advantage of those avenues is up to you.
=/ shows how the world works in each country. Over here nobody really gives a damn what your school/highschool grades are. Its college-forward that matters. Anything you did previous to that, may as well never happened, wich is why its become something of a culture for students to just not care about their grades previous to college because they're gonna get ignored anyways. If you can cheat enough to just barely pass the exams, then nothing else matters.
Bummer.
Post by
Gone
Professor Lewish Terman (who pioneered the concept of IQ, and sustained throughout his life that it was directly related to success, only to find after his 30-year live experiment ended that it didn't)
IQ is only partially related to grades and academic success.
Perfect grades will pay off in terms of opening up avenues for you to succeed. Actually taking advantage of those avenues is up to you.
=/ shows how the world works in each country. Over here nobody really gives a damn what your school/highschool grades are. Its college-forward that matters. Anything you did previous to that, may as well never happened, wich is why its become something of a culture for students to just not care about their grades previous to college because they're gonna get ignored anyways. If you can cheat enough to just barely pass the exams, then nothing else matters.
Bummer.
It's kind of the same way here, although high school grades still indirectly matter because the better you do, the better a college you can get into after.
This actually kind of worked out better for me, since I basically jerked off through the first two years of high school, then dropped out junior year due to a persona tragedy. So because of this my options for college were kind of limited, but since employers only look at your most recent grades, doing well in undergraduate can still open the door to get into a good graduate school.
Post by
Squishalot
It's kind of the same way here, although high school grades still indirectly matter because the better you do, the better a college you can get into after.
This, here too. Our final year high school exams mean nothing once you get through uni/college. Just like your uni / college marks mean nothing when you have >1 year experience in the workforce. So in that respect, your perfect grades still matter, but their useability and contribution to 'success' wane quite quickly.
Post by
Gone
uni / college marks mean nothing when you have >1 year experience in the workforce.
This kind of depends on your field. For a lot of upper level graduate degrees, PHDs or other doctorates, the school you graduated from makes a difference for much of your career. This is mostly due to fields like medicine, law, university level teaching, etc, tend to operate in tiers, and there isn't always a lot of upward movement between tiers once you start your career.
Post by
Squishalot
I actually disagree with that. If you're a PhD or have some other doctorate, your career lives and dies on a) where you're employed, and b) what you've published / where it's published, rather than the uni you graduated from. If you're a Harvard professor, the fact that you got your PhD from some crappy university means nothing.
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Gone
I actually disagree with that. If you're a PhD or have some other doctorate, your career lives and dies on a) where you're employed, and b) what you've published / where it's published, rather than the uni you graduated from. If you're a Harvard professor, the fact that you got your PhD from some crappy university means nothing.
I wouldn't really call what you publish "work experience" though, unless your working solely as a researcher. Law firms hire people directly out of college, and you won't even get considered for a job at the bog places, unless you went to a school that passes their minimum requirements, or have work experience at a firm of equal or greater repute. Same thing with medical doctors. If you have work experience in a small town, it's going to be hard to transition to a place like Johns Hopkins without having something big to bring to the table.
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