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Yakra's Theories on Tanking (Updated 7/28/09)
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Sakkura
Hmm.. I have been wondering if its possible to make a macro for Last Stand, so it tells exactly how much extra health I gain for those 20 seconds. Its no problem doing the macro so the raid knows I've activated it, but Im unsure on the health announcing part.
Hmm... Intriguing idea. But don't you think it would risk being information overload to say how much health it gives? I can't imagine what the healers could even use that information for (though that may be my lack of imagination).
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Sakkura
Someone I know uses /rw LAST STAND ACTIVATED!! with a macro when he hits last stand. This does get the message to your healers generally. Else a shout on TS or Vent does the trick.
You can even macro it so it sends a message to the healers bar addons, so they can see the effect duration on their screen easily. I would guess that is more useful than whether the last stand is adding 4671 hp or 5787 hp.
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Superstinger71
Hey everyone i've been reading this thread ever since i started my war and have learned alot and I want to thank you for all the hard work that you guys have put into this. I just recently made the transition from Arms/Fury to Tank and have had nothing but complements on my skill and its all cause of the knowledge i have gained from you guys. I hope you guys keep up the great work and ill keep you informed on my progress to 70 and gearing him for end game raids.
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mlodywn
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34609
Do you thing this weapon can be used for tanking?
I've done both Kara and Mecha many, many times and never seen Defender or Sun Eater and this is weapon with highest dps and decent stamina I can get ATM.
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Arideni
...and will continue serving you in solo & Fury play (eventually, it becomes good to dual wield them while spamming Execute for the armor ignore).
I'm a large proponent of that weapon for tanking. Actually recommended it to someone just the other day.
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Arideni
Yakra, don't you think such a topic deserves its own thread, I mean, we could all share ideas, etc. without hijacking your sticky, =p I know I want to, but once again you beat me to the bullet!
I probably won't get to share my thoughts until later in the week or so, since I'm starting a new schedule at work this week. Basically 12/7/52, for threat, =0
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Sakkura
I agree on most of your assessments Yakra, good job as usual :)
Only ones I would question are - improved taunt; I would say this loses some power for 5-man content due to vigilance refreshing taunt. And safeguard doesn't really seem that great for 5-mans either, since it will usually be followed by a taunt (which is even easier to accomplish now due to the aforementioned vigilance refreshing taunt) - more of a PvP / raid offtank talent IMO.
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Arideni
On the contrary, I thought Yakra judged some talents too well for Heroics & others too lightly for Heroics. For example, Imp. Sunder Armor & Toughness scored lower than I would rank for Heroics. Overall, pretty fair assessment though.
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tobarstep
I agree with Sakkura on Safeguard. Seems more of a PvP talent to me. In its current form, I probably won't be taking it at all. I also agree that Imp Sunder is 5/5 for any tank spec. I don't know what I'd do without my 9 rage devastates. From talent descriptions it seems that tanking is going to be based more on block/dodge/parry than defense rating, so I'd also rate
Stalwart Protector
as 5/5 for heroics. Especially on trash pulls. It'll be proccing constantly.
Shockwave
.. raid bosses will likely still be immune to the stun but it scales well, doing 25% of your AP in damage. Now, currently that would put it doing about as much damage as a wet noodle, but it seems tanking in Wrath is heavily dependent on STR. People are reporting Shockwave crits well over 1000 damage, and that is before access to any end-game gear. We're not sure what the additional threat modifier is yet either, I don't think. If it continues to scale that well, I'd say 5/5 even for 25 man bosses.
Critical Block
.. again, given all the STR on the new tank gear, and the new formula of 2 STR = 1 SBV, this talent is going to be big for mitigation.
Edit: forgot a really important one. Not a talent, but the new ability
Bloodbath
. Hooray for multi-mob tanking for Warriors! The current tooltip doesn't indicate any stance-specificity. We can only hope it remains usable in defensive stance, which would also have me replace Imp Heroic Strike with Bloodletting (old Imp Rend) in my spec since I'll be doing heroics and 10 mans more than 25 mans.
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Sakkura
the new formula of 2 STR = 1 SBV
Is that true? I was about to say strength would still be a meh stat, but with such a change...
And need I say it's about damn time they improved the ratio there.
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