Post by Pyrop
Ok, I think we all can say that frost is the BEST PvP spec for mages, BUT what about arcane? One: it has the Arcane Fortitude which increases your armor greatly. Two: and this is the one I like most is the Presence of Mind talent which makes spells like frost bolt instant which is great if you ask me. Make a few macros for spells and its great (of course I dont know what the CD for it is, I havent goten to that point yet). These are great talents that dont seem to get enough love fro PvP because frost is the master of that domain. Well, I was thinking it over and looking at the talent tree and came up with this (
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o0xEcoszZZbhGIsbesbo). It takes away your little pet but really, how usfull is it? It may even help to not have it at some points. Its like a demo Warlock, with your damn felguard its obvious what you are. Why not keep them guessing a bit XD.Thats just my opinion though, not sure if it actually works or not. What I want to know is what you guys think about my idea. Are the two talents from Arcane worth the points out of Frost? and what about other specs in Arcane geting up to them? Please tell me what you think.
Post by Pyrop
Ok looked at it again (meaning I actually looked up PoM). From some of the coments I read there This Arcane splice specing could also make an effective Fire PvP (or so my ego is telling me (it thinks Im smart)). I looked at it again and made this (
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o0xEcofz0hZVgGzbccoxo). What do you guys think. The posibuility for an instant Pyroblast is great. Also pointed out was the instant Sheep posibuility, which in my mind makes this tallent a must have. So what do you guys think? Are the other Arcane talents that should be added in or what?
Post by Chocolatemilk2
Deep frost is amazing for PvP and presence of mind should never be taken over water elemental. It is way too valuable with its' 2 ranged frost novas and extra dps output. Sure presence of mind is nice but it's one instant cast every 3 minutes. Improved counterspell is the only thing in arcane that is worth sacrificing 17 points into frost for. The expansion looks to change that, but right now the pvp build for arcane/frost is very close to
this with a few talent points switched around to your liking.
And for the fire build i believe the popular arcane/fire build is close to
this.
Post by RedMosquito
I believe Frost was made for pvp.
But i recently started playing around with arcane and i must admit it is good!
having said that i dont know how it will do in arena but in av, eots
and ab i did pretty well. i used am mostly because if you have a lock on target he cant hide behind tree, building or mountain!
just keep up the casting bar and you will be pouring damage on that sucker like nobodies business. but the only problem is no survivability if you get spotted by melee your screwed
I think we all agree that frost is the necessary spec for arena, but after respeccing my mage in every imaginable way I find I have the most fun in BG's with this arcane spec
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cho%27gall&n=Sapphire. Slow is just op, I get a ton of procs from molten shields/impact between the 2 thats great kiteability. Improved CS is a must, pom pyro with trinket and arcane power is great fun. Los issues are fixed with AM. I just really think this build works. Yeah the lack of WE sucks, 1 ice block not as good as 2 and the ice bubble is better than mana bubble. But slow is far better than rank 1 frost bolts even if it does cost a lot more. I think played with a high level of skill ice is more competitive but for pwning in BG's this is easier, works pretty damn good and its more fun.