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Feral: What stats in Armor for leveling?
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Post by
Lynlee
Good Day!
My druid is lvl 27. My HP 1041. I die a lot.. :| I am feeling the need for more HP/Sta, but what else? Int? Agi? Str? Im totally Solo, not partying so far. Am not really interested in that or Raids. I might do some non raid party stuff later on.. after lvl 50ish.
I usually, for melee Mods, start out with root, then hit them with Starfire, Faery Fire, Moonfire, buff me with Regrowth, Cat.. By then they are comin at me. (Naturally I already have Mark of the Wild and Thorns up.) With long range foe, I leave off root. And if my health is low will grab Healing Touch before Regrowth, since usually ranged Mobs are doing damage while I debuff & DoT them. Are my tactics sucky?
These are my current Base Stats:
Str 40
Agi 45
Sta 86
Int 60
Spi 58
Armor 618
Def 137
Dodge 6.75%
Perry/Block 0
Res 0
Talent Trees:
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Feral = 12
Ferocity 5/5
Brutal IImpact 2/2
Feral Insticts 3/3
Feral Swiftness 2/2
1 not used
Restoration = 5
Furor 5/5
Did I break my tree?
Noob needs advice! If she is irreversibly broken, need to know before wasting more time on her.
Peace.. and MUCH thanks for any/all wisdom.. Lynlee
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Post by
Lynlee
Good Day cunnien029 and Trieo!
I tried to PM you but didnt know how! I wanted just to thank you both for your great help! I HAVE DIRECTION! ::snicker::
I Did read the druid Guides! Some of it, I just do not understand, due to the terminology. For example the most efficient heals section. /doh I understand the individual words, but they way they are chained together, is pretty much senseless to me. That happened in a couple of vital areas in the guide. Yes, English is my birth language.. Oh well.. hahah
Trieo, I am wondering if I read you on other forums.. Did you write a guide? Or were you just very good about pointing people to it.. that is my impression anyway.
Again, Much Thanks.. Peace.. Lynlee
Post by
faia
agli...agli AGLI you hear ME AGILITY!
and some stam for less downtiem adn you READY to go!
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Post by
Lightrain
Um, don't listen to them....
Only a few points were good. Yes, agil is great for your kitty. Don't be afraid to use strength too.
ANYTHING
with strength and/or agility is good. If it has stam on it, even better. Strength will bump your attack power as well, and at your low level, you aren't much worried about crit as much as your normal hits in general.
At 27, your spec should be something like this-
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGMcbo-
.
Don't bother with furor till after you get mangle. 41 points in, you can worry about furor then. It doesn't gimp you in pve grinding. It gimps you in pvp and tanking outlands instances. You want every shred of damage output to your melee.
Every piece of your gear should have strength and/or agil. If it doesn't, swap it out.
You also want to be using pounce(but I don't think you have it yet) or ravage straight out of stealth. Ravage for now until you have pounce, then you will pretty much throw ravage away for a while until you get up to outlands and want to kill a warlock's imp quickly. This puts damage down before you get hit. If you aggro a bunch of mobs, try to down the first target, then shift to bear, and bash another to try to heal yourself. Always down one quickly. At lower levels, bear form isn't as advantageous as it is at higher levels(35+).
Oh, and feral swiftness
ROCKS!
Use it. It's great for running between mobs and not having to shift for more speed, or mount, or whatever. On top of that, the 4% dodge is great when you are agil based dps in kitty form. I miss feral swiftness loads now that I'm resto. Once you get pounce, you open with it, and squeeze 2 shreds on the mob before it attacks you. Then it's back to your claw spams. Oh, and at your level, rake is still a viable DoT. Use it. Once it starts looking really weak compared to your
mangle
, then you push it off to the side. While it is still hitting almost as much as your claw, you will still want to use it.
If you are confused about anything, let me know. I'll clarify. This was thrown together kinda quickly...
Post by
Lynlee
Good Day!
Lightrain.. When I put my first talent point in, I accidently put it into Balanced.. :(
I was so frustrated I re-spec! Do you believe it would be worth it to respec again, now to reclaim the Furor talent pts? My First article in this thread, lists my current talents, which include 5pts to Furor. Would all those talents be appropriate to my needs? For example Feral Charge? I will NEVER be doing PvP or Raids. Im trying to make a mainly Solo build that occasionally may participate in NON Raid parties sometime after lvl 50 when I have something more to offer a party.
I have been mainly following this talent build for 'Leveling'.
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/15/shifting-perspectives-leveling-and-talent-specs/
Lower on the page is a section, 'Level 1-49', that I have been following. He recommend a respec at lvl 50, to slightly different build, and to finish the tree, by removing Restoration pts to do it. I didnt follow as suggested, I got Feral Swiftness before doing ANY Restoration. Then, I decided to do the restoration, and come back to Feral after that..
I just need to stay alive better. I was thinking I broke the build by going for FS and not grabbing the restoration when recommended. I also wondered if my armor stats where the reason for my frequent deaths. Thus this thread.
I did notice that some skill(s)/talent(s) played off STR to do more damage. More AGI also made sense, since I would be Criting more often, but normal hits come ALL the time, and my crits are disappointingly small at this level, even though they come more frequently than before.. Therefore, I think your point is valid at my current lvl, for doing more damage.. Now Im wondering at what level I should start looking for more AGI than STR. There is the Dodge factor with increased AGI, since my problem is dying a lot.. :| decisions.. oh gads..
Appreciate you taking the time to write a bit about tactics.. It appears this was one of my greatest failings.. haha Yes, also it has been quite expensive
(pots) and one of the reason I opted to jump to Furor. IE: the macro out/into Feral to get a 40pt energy hit.
Sincerely appreciate all input I have read here.. You have all contributed to my lack of knowledge and hopefully, I can pull this lil Feral Druid out of her 'frequent death' syndrom! ;)
Peace.. Lynlee
Post by
Lightrain
Are you on a PVP realm? Do you run into a lot of horde?
If the answer is no to running into horde, you really have no need for furor. The boost in your dps will keep you alive longer, or make it easier to down more mobs faster. I don't spec into feral charge until I have a spare point that isn't needed for another dps talent, and the same goes for the armor boost. Those are both tanking/pvp talents. The armor boost will keep you alive longer against normal mobs tho.
It's up to you to respec or not. You will notice a difference in damage. It is also viable to run with furor, but I don't think it's worth the 5 points so early in the game
unless
you are doing some battle grounds and doing player vs player action. If that were the case, furor and feral charge are very important.
If you are just doing quests, and solo grinding mobs and quests, without too many issues against the other faction, you don't really need furor. All it does is make it quicker to do something when you shift. That is all. Otherwise, it does nothing. If I had 3 mobs, I would use my dps to take down one mob quickly, and then shift to bear and start taking out the other 2. If you are solo questing, you will VERY rarely need the benefit furor gives you.
IMO, it's a waste of 5 points at such a low level unless you are a twink or doing a lot of pvp.
Furor also does nothing for your survivability against mobs. If you want to stay alive, you need to output as much as you can. The shorter the fight, the easier to stay alive.
An armory link would still help a lot. Also, at your level, you might want to think about going into gnomeregan or some other instances. Solo grinding is great, but the drops are nothing compared to instance boss drops, and you might find that rolling in a group of 5 in instances is more fun than solo grinding all the time.
Post by
JamieK
Um, don't listen to them....
Only a few points were good. Yes, agil is great for your kitty. Don't be afraid to use strength too.
ANYTHING
with strength and/or agility is good. If it has stam on it, even better. Strength will bump your attack power as well, and at your low level, you aren't much worried about crit as much as your normal hits in general.
At 27, your spec should be something like this-
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGMcbo-
.
Don't bother with furor till after you get mangle. 41 points in, you can worry about furor then. It doesn't gimp you in pve grinding. It gimps you in pvp and tanking outlands instances. You want every shred of damage output to your melee.
Every piece of your gear should have strength and/or agil. If it doesn't, swap it out.
You also want to be using pounce(but I don't think you have it yet) or ravage straight out of stealth. Ravage for now until you have pounce, then you will pretty much throw ravage away for a while until you get up to outlands and want to kill a warlock's imp quickly. This puts damage down before you get hit. If you aggro a bunch of mobs, try to down the first target, then shift to bear, and bash another to try to heal yourself. Always down one quickly. At lower levels, bear form isn't as advantageous as it is at higher levels(35+).
Oh, and feral swiftness
ROCKS!
Use it. It's great for running between mobs and not having to shift for more speed, or mount, or whatever. On top of that, the 4% dodge is great when you are agil based dps in kitty form. I miss feral swiftness loads now that I'm resto. Once you get pounce, you open with it, and squeeze 2 shreds on the mob before it attacks you. Then it's back to your claw spams. Oh, and at your level, rake is still a viable DoT. Use it. Once it starts looking really weak compared to your
mangle
, then you push it off to the side. While it is still hitting almost as much as your claw, you will still want to use it.
If you are confused about anything, let me know. I'll clarify. This was thrown together kinda quickly...
Thats exactly the spec i intend to use....i prefer dps and just love kitty form, so i made a NE Druid, now i am doing a tauren. :)
I am gonna make it a mixture of Strength and Agility with stamina, so it will be a combo of 'of the bear' and 'of the monkey' for my gear.
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