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How viable will a ret pally be in raids/5 mans in WOTLK
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Karol
Ret pallys in 5 man instances will sure be viable because we get a CC, in raids i think there still will be like 1-2 retri palas in the raid because in WotLK one Aura of one paladin will be on the whole raid and our talent that gives 3% more crit on the target(didnt look at that talents for some time so i dont know realy what its gonna do.
About the DPS...our DPS will sure be improved because we get some nice skills like Divine Storm in raids/instances where will be undeads i am sure we will be the best DPS:P
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1) Pure DPS isn't everything. Why do you think Rogue's are screaming up a storm right now that they can't get in instances and raids because their non-dps usefullness is limited (mostly by ignorance and lack of skill or intelligent specing). Sap is a time consuming and 1 time go, etc.
2) In nearly all raids and heroics, you need more then just dps. Thats why most dps classes also have cc, buffs etc. Ret paladin's and Survival Hunters are going to have the same if not more opportunities for raids/heroics as current Shadow Priests have. Multiple and greatly desired buffs, cc, mana-battery effect, and viable if not substantial dps.
I'm not saying Ret pally's are going to or should own the charts with same quality gear as some of the pure dps classes, but you don't expect an enhancement shammy or elemental shammy to beat rogue's/mages/ or lock's, but they are desired because they do good dps themselves, but most importantly they greatly enhance the dps of those pure dps classes they are grouped with, which means the whole raid/party wins.
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Derichian
goddamnit, the Noobs of wow have to be Slapped upside the head, ANYONE with the mindset of retlol still are ignorant. people need to learn that ret's arent there to just dps, they are there to help EVERYOE else dps. and extra bufs. i raid mount hyjal/bt content with my ret pally and am love by the guild i was in so everyone that says retlol these days.. gdiaf
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schizophrenia
Very viable. They get CC, they've always had dps and now they get more, and they get utility in the form of mana/energy/rage/rp regen ontop of CC.
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So basically now pallys are going to be able to do everything, cc,dps,heal and tank ......I can see it now 5 man heroic of nothing but pallys......great, perfectly balanced....im being serious here based on previous steps taking by blizzard it may become a reality, I myself like variety and that is why I rolled a prot war to tank with and a rogue to do mad dps with and a hunter that can do respectable dps while still being good at crowd control.
Stupid me I should of just rolled a pally cept I hate the class, tanking with one take no skill or effort, whoo cast pull, cast cons, drink mana rinse and repeat very demanding and takes loads expertise of skill and once more turnan instance into a zerg, there are no kill orders to be followed and what is really fun is to try and tank the same instance with the same people with a prot war and have a 10 minute discussion as to why they need to follow a kill order and have them nuke X and Circle while skull is still up "cause we do that with a Pally tank and you suck",
Healing with one take no skill or effort either our main raid holy pally is a twit without a brain took here 2 month to figure out how to cleanse holy fire from people on maiden and she still made it to sunwel lt6 content and we still do badge runs in kara and people still die from holy fire yet she is a t6 holy pally who uses pretty much a fully automated set up a monkey could figure out to use(pally power for the win),
Ret is a joke but so is dps mortal strike idk if it is the qaulity of the people but 99% of the time the prot pally out dps's them both.....let this become a reality and i may just decide to walk away.
LOL Maybe you should walk away you moron. prot pallies out dps aloooot of things, consecration + spl damage + ret aura + SoR hits and judgements. think if ur tanking 10 things at once thats alot of damage at once. also ive done full paladin karas on Live servers. and never had a problem. so if your saying that a class that has a dps tree shouldnt be able to dps, then what would be the point of us having a dps tree. you are one of the so-called retarded @#$%suckers that still hold the pre-bc statement of RETLOL, because you probably dont fully understand WoW..
maybe you should boycott blizzard and tell them that every hybrid class should actually only have 1 good tree. *sarcasm* if druids and shamans can do all 3 of there trees equally well, why should paladins get abused for using 1 of there talent trees.
IMHO.. Ret pallies Are one of the best class-specs ingame.
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Unsurper, what did we do to &*!@ you off?
@ OP
Yes, ret paladins will be viable in groups and raids. We will provide haste, increased damage, + crit chance, and mana return through JotW. Divine Storm will also return some health to the group, and we'll have a CC with Repentance, and an instant heal with The Art of War. We will also bring the standard paladin utilities that a healer may not have a CD available to use, and a tank might be too busy to provide. These include our blessings, Imp. BoM, Hands of salvation, freedom, and protection, we'll also have Lay on Hands and Divine Intervention. Also we'll bring what damage we have, which isn't as small an amount as some people try to make it out to be.
But mainly it will be up to the individual player. If a player has the goal of topping the DPS charts, he probably won't, and he won't be as much help to a group or raid as another hybrid class who uses everything at his disposal.
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