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Berserk Broken for PvP
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Post by
Kaitain
quoted from my post on wow-europe PTR forums:
Well, not exactly broken, but for a PvPing feral it is near useless. The reason being - when you shapeshift, either directly between cat and bear form, or to caster form, the buff disappears. This is not good.
I'm sure just from reading that that the devs can see the inherent problem with this, but in case not let me clarify:
I pop berserk to open on a mage. I get a frostbite proc on me, and he of course blinks away. I am then snared and a few seconds from massive damage. In the past the major strength of ferals in PvP has been their ability to shift out of snares (while our mana pool lasts). If I shift now to escape the nova, I lose my 51 point talent buff.
The entire buff can effectively be cancelled by any class that has any kind of snare or even slow. People will see you popped Berserk, and just snare you, eliminating all threat you pose.
The list of instant (non proc) abilities that can be used to force a feral to shift out of his berserk buff is huge. Off the top of my head: Frost Nova, Freeze, Slow, Blast Wave, Conc Shot, Wing Clip, Thunderclap, Hamstring, Peircing Howl, Crippling poison, Frost Shock, Roots, Curse of Exhaustion... and I'm sure many others.
Could you please review how this ability works.
My suggestion would be to have the buff stay up for it's full duration and be completely non-dispellable (like mage/lock armor buffs). The buff would have no effect while you were in caster, flight, aquatic, or travel form, but would always remain for it's full duration and it's effect return if/when you shift back to cat or bear form.
This is a major flaw in my eyes. Can any ferals who PvP (and care) pls head over to the forum and make supporting posts so something gets done about it before 3.0 goes live. Thx :-D
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5901610628&sid=1
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105626
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Post by
Kaitain
ye. on the official forums i sort got talked out of it. lol
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212399
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Post by
faia
and now it only work like a beast mastery pet die, by that i mean when you not "beast form" anymore it "die" to
it did stay on like a buff when you shifted in beta, they removed that?
EDIT: to make it serious again....to one below...learn what troll-the-troll mean....we did see this coming long ago
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192330
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Post by
Kaitain
Believe it or not Blizzard understands the whole Rock-Paper-Scissors concept pretty well. Players do not. I've leveled a Shaman, Hunter, Druid, Rogue, and Priest to 70 so far, across 3 servers. I see how each class has their weaknesses and advantages. The druid has the ability to adapt to any situation except fear. This should help feral druids be able to cope when that situation arises, however I severely doubt it will become a major issue.
I understand Rock-Paper-Scissors too, don't patronise me. The post was from a few days of non-stop ptr testing and i still think compared to most other classes it's a slightly unexciting 51 pointer for PvP. I think anyone who has played Feral in arena for any length of time would agree that the fragility of the buff is very disappointing. And great buff yes, but one that completely locks out our most powerful ability - rapid shapeshifting. However, i have conceded that it will involve learning how to get 15 secs of Berserk instead of 5, which atm is pretty hard, but i'm sure as my berserking skills develop will get easier.
Comparing warrior stance changes to snare-breaking shapeshifts is not very helpful. Comparing to TBW is also deeply misleading, for reasons that could fill an entire thread. Faia's comment is almost incomprehensible and definitely quite stupid.
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Post by
Biglove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1zv-eUAybU
The buffs should stay. Dunno wtf happened.
Post by
Kaitain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1zv-eUAybU
The buffs should stay. Dunno wtf happened.
very interesting. Perhaps just a PTR bug then. That would be nice.
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144872
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Post by
Biglove
To be fair..... although his posts are stupid. English is not his first language.
So as good as it may make you feel ...sitting up in your high chair, mocking the grammar of others. Remember that not everyone speaks english. Criticizing someone with english as a second language (or even 3rd) is like winning the special olympics. In the end.... your still retarded.
Still have a problem with it? Become a teacher.. or else stfu.
Death to all Grammar Police.
Quoted for fuсking thruth.
Post by
pelf
Making spelling and grammar mistakes on a post criticizing grammar and spelling is also a big no-no. If I ever make a post like that, I make sure I've checked and quadruple-checked stuff.
As for this:
Still have a problem with it? Become a teacher.. or else stfu.
Maybe the poster
is
a teacher :).
As for the criticism itself: there's a difference between speaking English as a second language and not taking any time at all to compose a post. They're not mutually exclusive, for sure.
By the way, foley, you misspelled "you're" ~_^.
EDIT:
I realized after posting this that it sounds like I'm making a point about faia. I'm not. It's a general point.
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167758
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Post by
faia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1zv-eUAybU
The buffs should stay. Dunno wtf happened.
ah so i was not wrong!
why they changed it? it made it great that way
back to the "grama stuff" well yeah its second lang, and if you look at forum on US/EU this is like a "chain whine" so you get sick of hear it over and over so why make it serious? but it still PTR and not live so many change happen each day like the talent tree's
Post by
pelf
They're not done with Berserk.
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