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Freezing Arrow and AotV Nerfs
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Post by
Wrassinn
Wow I can't agree with you more. The whole freezing arrow thing seemed useful at first but the more I look at it the more it straight up SUCKS. It's weak compared to camo but I have to agree that there is already too much stealthing. I also really like your ideas with the stings but it seems that that pushes into lock territory a bit. I only say that being fair with so many complaining about MD now a rogue talent.
Post by
skribs
Camo was weak IMO. It was the stealth mechanic for a brief time on a cooldown, which hardly makes us a stealth class. Personally I think it would have only been advantagous in situations where you'd already have the advantage, therefore pretty much being useless. This arrow I think is slightly better, but not much. It's real use is the ability to trap casters in PvE if you ask me.
Post by
nazumagal
Wow are really that stupid?
AotV is actually great now,but I disagree with the 50% damage descrease(though it makes sense.)Imagine, 50% of your damage turning into mana. You can regenerate your whole mana bar in seconds.I doubt they will make a freezing arrow, and that they will make damage caused to a frozen target not break it.Being able to freeze a target in PvP from afar, AND up close? Being able to deal damage to a target for 10 seconds without retaliation?HERESY!And I haven't heard word that they removed camo yet.
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skribs
2x base weapon speed means you'll regen approximately 2% of your mana per second. That means 50 seconds of doing half damage to get back to full. Granted, you have passive regeneration (or you're spamming shots) but shots cost mana too.
Post by
Sokur
This is retarded. AotV is just horrible. If taken literally, it means such:
Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix
(Probably the most popular bow in game)
2.90 Base Attack Speed x 2 = 5.80 Mana per shot returned with AotV.
Am I missing something here?
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Sokur
This is retarded. AotV is just horrible. If taken literally, it means such:
Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix
(Probably the most popular bow in game)
2.90 Base Attack Speed x 2 = 5.80 Mana per shot returned with AotV.
Am I missing something here?
Actually, I think you do. The way I understand it is "5.8% of your total mana" returned per shot (so approx. 350 MP for a mana pool of 6000)
Ah, gotcha. Thank you. That's not bad at all then, 5.8% of total mana back per shot. Maybe the tooltip should be reworded for morons like me that take things literally =)
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107175
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Post by
Kairew
I can't disagree with the original post any more.
WIth the way AotV is now, I can flip it on and gain 382 mana back per ranged attack. Not sure if this is a bug or not, but a tick of serpent sting somehow registers as a "ranged attack" and I gain 382 mana. Per tick. Now, When I flip on viper and throw a serpent sting on the target, while still keeping up my steady/auto shots, I can regenerate my entire mana pool in a matter of seconds. And, as a bonus, Blizzard made each seperate arrow of Multi-Shot a ranged attack. 3 Targets hit with multi-shot? About 1100 mana regenerated.
If you're that concerned about your damage loss, spec BM. Aspect Mastery lowers the amount of damage reduced from AotV by 10%, making it a 40% damage decrease. Not only that, but Cobra Strikes coupled with Invigoration is a great way to regenerate mana, not on a large, quick scale like AotV does, but it's still handy. Cobra Strikes is usually up all the time for me.
And freezing arrow? Why would you complain about that? No one is saying you must use freezing arrow from now on, are they? If you're running a 5 man, and there is a caster pull you need to trap on in a long hallway with nothing to LoS around and you don't feel like running right up to them or laying your trap and running down the hallway to outrange them, you can just shoot a trap at their feet.
Mob running at your healer? Shoot a freezing arrow in it's path.
It's a luxury, don't use it if you don't want to.
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