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Why PvP sucks in Wrath, and what can be done to fix it.
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DarkSaruman
Wanderingfox, you are my hero
/love
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Booterang
./cast ancestral spirit
Death knights cannot ressurect yet, so gtfo.
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CanadianSniper
DKs, Rets and Rogues have their problems. They're not a perfect class. I have yet to see a DK beat me more than 20% of the time without backup. I've been 2v1'd by 2 DKs many times. All I do is separate them and burn them down. They can't kill me if they can't get to me and I can kill them while they're chasing me. (Elemental Shaman)
I honestly think that a lot of the issues in PvP right now stem from the fact that even having 900+ resilience (roughly
10.97%+
10%
crit chance reduction
and DoT damage reduction as well as
and
24.14%+
20%
reduced
crit damage
and mana drains
/ DoT reduction
) isn't enough to even add 2 seconds onto your lifespan. The average time any battle lasts is far too short. Fights should be lasting between 20 seconds and a minute on average, not 4-15 seconds like they do currently.
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Malestryx
1)Remove vanish from rogues. How silly is it that you're having a fight and they can vanish 6 inches from your nose? On the face of it i can see every nerd rager rogue on this forum, (and there are plenty) thinking this a bad idea so i would simply suggest that rogue survivability gets a buffed. They do die mighty quick, but then blizzard made some SO hated most people will only to happily turn round and target them. Not much I can do about that tbh. Thats retribution for 4 years of having it your own way.
4)Cloak of shadows. Possibly blizzards worse idea ever - well, every rogue i know who comes to gank me uses it offensively to make them utterly immune from my spells for 5 seconds whilst beating on me. Reduce the cd on it, you give them alot more survivability, but make them unable to do ANY damage whislt using it.
I love to hear people !@#$% about our burst. Yeah it is good. But what about Paladins and DKs? The biggest difference between out burst and other class is if we don't get our opener right. We die in 3 secs. There is a reason why Rogues where leather. And we have taken a few nerfs lately anyways (the biggest being Overkill).
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1771
I'm gonna be honest, I stopped reading after the first paragraph.
I play a warrior, arms, fury, and (which I am) prot especially can beat down a death knight if they know their class. Now, I know you thinking this is a "L2P" comment, and it is. Death knights DO have weaknesses. Its called timing. I time my stuns, silences, disarms, you name it, I time it.
Death Knights are not easy to beat, but then again, good chance you'll be fighting a 'Death Tard' and get a free kill. GL!
Edit: words
lol since when TIMING is a weakness?
You simply outplay DKs you didnt find their weakness, you found YOUR strength.
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Post by
manicmania
Wow,
I'm surprised that this was an actually intelligent thread.
Kudos on that.
There were some real point in there, but one struck a cord in my head about the paladins- Apparently, the class is being reworked so that its more sustained damage and much less "upfront" or burst damage. The main problem that would gimp a paladin in dps for pve would be the fact they're a three button class, quite literally.
1-Judgments (could be more damage or a utility spell from the seal)
2-crusader strike
3-Divine storm
(I'm not listing exorcism since its not a valid option in pvp)
The fact is- all other classes have multiple spells that do damage, or don't rely on one spell to create 4-5 (as in seals being a prerequisites to use your judgment and its correlating effect of both said seal and judgment.)
The only way I could see a way to regulate damage a bit more would be revamping paladin gear to give better melee swings, and nerf (yea, NERF!) things like judgments and divine storm. I'm sure there are always better ways to reconfigure the paladin issue we're dealing with, and I'm defiantly not any good shakes at making up effective ideas to fix this issue.
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