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The 18/53 raid healing build and its playstyle.
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Paolo
I get the fact that shielding someone prevents disco from doing it and that holy shields are weaker. Typically tho, any disc preist is busy healing the tank, etc with the other comments.
When I am tank healing (disc priest), I am bubblespamming the raid to assist raid healers. There are almost always plenty of free GCDs to work with, and it keeps up BT (haste), WS (crit), and Rapture (regen). And of course, when I get my 4 pieces, it will keep up the +250SP tier bonus as well. So I treat all raid members as mine to bubble. Even with Improved PWS, a holy priest pre-empting my WS debuff on anyone will be making a grave mistake. I mean "mistake" from a raid-centric perspective...we have to weave our abilities together to make a unified whole, and not be working at cross purposes. Taking away the core ability of one of your healers is not team play.
I run with two holy priests who know not to shield except in emergencies. I do worry about what will happen when we all have the 4-piece bonus. If they can't restrain themselves, we will have a serious problem. If one of them spec'd for Body & Soul, we'd find a way to navigate the WS debuffs, but they would still have to be careful about overusing their shields.
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Post by
Paolo
Pre-empting your WS debuff a grave mistake? Is your 4% crit gonna save the day? L2read. I named other reasons the WS debuff should (mainly) belong to disc. And why do you respond with such an attitude? Wow.
Edit
: Just to make the obvious even more obvious: Other than Replenishment,
Rapture
is my biggest source of mana regen. If you preempt my ability to bubble, you remove one of my key mana management tools. Was your bubble really so important that you'd intentionally run me out of mana? Aren't we supposed to be on the same side? Mana burn the bad guys, not the good guys.
I know you don't keep shields up on everyone in the raid while MT healing.Of course not. But I reserve the
right
to--except (as I said) in emergencies. And why do you respond with such an attitude?
When I play with our disco priest, I never bubble the MT unless the disco priest is dead. That's all the coordination needed.You and I would not stay guilded for long, one way or the other.
But I think this is not really a discussion at all, do you? You have a foregone conclusion that you're proving by yelling, and a playstyle that is not team-oriented. Play however you want to play, I'm all for that. There are all kinds of people in this game. I just don't spend my time with all of them.
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Post by
OscarDivine
Empowered renew is the reason that we shouldn't be shielding, really. and what's this nonsense about Bubbling increasing your HPS? I really don't understand your logic or even why it matters in the slightest.
IMO Bubble is a waste of mana, a GCD, and I think you're alone when you say that it DOESN'T detract from a Disco priest in their MT role. I know when I'm Disco healing, I throw bubbles on damage prone individual in my raid to keep my rapture going and to get that extra haste I need while my tank has his WS debuff.
I agree with Paolo, your playstyle is quite selfish and not at all team-oriented. You're not the hero. You're part of a team of heroes.
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Paolo
As for shields, every time I shield I gain a 250 spell power buff...Sorry, I should have read more closely. Now I understand this thread. Should have been obvious.
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Post by
Paolo
I really have to wonder what your definition of team work is.
Your behavior in this thread (more than your build or your playstyle) has made clear your thoughts on teamwork. You stand in stark contrast to almost everyone else on this forum, at least with regards to the function and purpose of community. Which is, fundamentally, the same as teamwork.
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Post by
OscarDivine
In the case that we're discussing this with a T8 Bonus, then we have to still consider that now you're respecing your toon out of things that you COULD have as a raid healing priest and weight the costs and benefits.
The
Body and Soul
talent was specifically designed with the T8 set bonus in mind to encourage priests to use their PWS. This still doesn't mean that you should be specing into better bubbles. I just don't find 3/3 Imp PWS a good use of talent points Set bonus or not. As a holy priest, I would invest into BnS before I go for Imp PWS.
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Post by
OscarDivine
Buddy boy, talking to you is like talking to a brick wall... But I'm going to put my other response in here anyway... Gimme a little while I'm at work being productive for a change.
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