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INCOMING! Arcane buffed sooner than first thought!
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a quote from Super Troopers is really all I can say about this buff if it indeed goes live..
"Mother of God"....
edit: okay.. so i haven't read all the posts in this thread, but i just realized that this would make arcane a ridiculously powerful pvp tree as well.
it might even be too powerful. mana free missile barrage? ABl getting severe mana cost reductions? expect this to get scaled back when all the other classes QQ about mages being too powerful again. (remember when abarr first came out? =\)
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It's not a severe mana cost reduction.
A stack of AB will debuff you for 520% mana cost, down from 600%.
lets do the math on this.. As it currently stands, arcane blast stacks cost you 200% mana now.
lets say an ABl costs you 1000 mana (just for easy math)
(1000 x 200%) = 2000. (2000 x 200%) = 4000. (4000 x 200%) = 8000... okay?
now with the new patch, it's being reduced to 130%
(1000 x 130%) = 1300. (1300 x 130%) = 1690. (1690 x 130%) = 2197. (2197 x 130%) = 2856.1
you mean to tell me that's not a great mana reduction?
you mean that that's not an INSANE mana reduction?
edit: that's not even mentioning the mana cost elimination of MBAM
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is time to go arcane and just arcane blast spam? the 1 button rotation?
spam it until MB procs.. especially since that's mana free in the new patch..
however, like i said, i don't see the arcane buff making it live as is unfortunatly. it's a retardedly strong buff.
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the buff isn't that big a dmg increase assuming the new rotation will be AB< AB< AB^< AB^<Abarrage.
*cast A missles when missle barrage procs.
the dps increase happens when u get to cast all 4 AB's.
It will be EXTREMELY more mana effecent and thus u won't have to evocate so that about 8 second more dps up time (yes i know much less with haste)
the buff WILL be a big dmg increase, i think, if the new rotation is AB>AB>AB>AB> *{Amis if missle barrage procs, if not continue to cast AB till it does, then cast ..} > Amis
i won't pretend to know, and defenitly won't do the math myself, to see if mana will sustain that rotation.
I do know when 3.2 comes out, i will give arcane a try. i do like and i think it's fun, but still like fire more atm.
yeah i'm not a mathematician either myself, so trying to figure out how much it costs to maintain an AB (ad nauseum) > MBAM rotation isn't really in my power at this point.
however, the little bit of basic math i did a couple posts back (About just how much mana cost was REDUCED by this insane buff) tells me that some people with raid buffs and really high mana pools will indeed to be able to pull it off with little to no more difficulty than they could the standard arcane rotation now. I mean, with arcane's 2 min evocation and mana gems, i could easily see this being the new rotation, "burn phase" be damned.
if you don't think that's a damage buff, look at the difference in damage done between a normal arcane rotation and a "burn phase" as it stands today. I'm not sure about you, but i've seen my dps go up anywhere between 500-1000 on burn phases in raid bosses. Add a 4th ABl stack to that and do it consistently.. that's a really powerful upgrade.
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I'm pretty sure glyphed the damage increase will be pretty nice.
72% more arcane damage > 54% more arcane damage.
I've tested mana efficiency quite a bit on PTR already.
Outside of a raid with a full AP/IV burned phase spamming nothing but Arcane Blast I end up around 52-55% mana. This is with about 22k mana.
In raids I have yet to NEED to evocate, tho I still do proactively.. if that makes sense. I haven't had to stop my main rotation to conserve mana. (AB til AM procs and atleast a 4 stack AB).
time to start stacking rediculous haste for 3.2
QFT..
sadly, it also means that every mage and their grandmother is going to roll arcane when this patch goes live.. /sigh
i hate being told i'm "only arcane cause everyone went arcane" when honestly i've bounced back and forth between arcane and ffb for the last 6 months. (edit: actually longer.. i was arcane when 3.0 went live, and levelled all the way to 80 as arcane/frost.. before the changes to arcane blast made it the main nuke)
i've probably spent enough on respecs and glyphs to buy my DK his epic flyer.
edit again: lol. i just noticed this is post 1337... awesome.
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