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101 Ways to not be Chaos/Conflag'd by a Warlock
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Do you know locks is the only class that doesn't have a single class-related stun breaker?
Is that so? I'm pretty sure that's not the case at all. As a matter of fact, I think CLASS-RELATED stun breakers are few and far between, and mostly loaded into the mages and paladins with blink/iceblock and hof/bubble. Other than that, I can't think of anything class-related that is a stun break, unless you count DK's ibf, but Dks are a discussion for another day...There are racial stun-breakers if you're a human, but hey, warlocks can be human so there ya go.
Sorry, I don't think that warlocks are particularly OP or UP as a general rule. but your point was completely wrong, and I felt the need to point that out.
oh... and 'ahem' most warlocks I run into are using succy or felpuppy. I'm not sure where you got your first point, but it seems just as flawed as the rest of your ill-begotten post.
Edit: Open beat me to it. /cheers
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just to clarrify:class related stun breaker=an skill/spell a class is possible to aquire that breaks stuns.EG the hunters beast within.Locks have 0 stun breakers in all specc's
thuya said:oh... and 'ahem' most warlocks I run into are using succy or felpuppy. I'm not sure where you got your first point, but it seems just as flawed as the rest of your ill-begotten post.
-sorry m8,you are one patch behind
Pointing out something so few classes have as a disadvantage is a poor way to promote your cause. And the beast within doesn't break stuns, it prevents them, so it's still irrelevent.
That being said... and as Open pointed out as well, decent locks will still use the felhunter if they have someone to peel for them.
A well played lock is a beast. A poorly played lock isn't. It's the same with almost any class... Your points have done nothing to prove otherwise.
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Saw this on official forumns...
range, line of sight, facing requirements, shadowmeld, and arcane torrent are the basics.
charge, intercept, pummel, shield bash, shock wave, concussive blow, spell reflection, intimidating shout, hammer of justice, repentance, bubble, ice block, counterspell, deep freeze, polymorph with or without presence of mind, invisibility, feign death, scatter shot, wyvern sting, freezing trap, intimidation, deterrance, crap pin, silencing shot, psychic scream, silence, spell lock, shadowfury, death coil, fear, howl of terror, cheap shot, kidney shot, kick, garrote, gouge, strangulate, ghoul gnaw, mind freeze, howling blast, anti-magic shell, death grip, cyclone with or without nature's swiftness, typhoon, thunderstorm, hex with or without maelstrom weapon, wind shock, and grounding totem
(That makes 57. 58 once you include Felguard Intercept. 59 when you include Seduction.)
Seems rather relevant...
I dont think any of this PREVENTS you from being hit by Chaos/Conflag...this is more of a 101 ways to DELAY being Chaos/Conflag'd
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Katsudon
The entire argument that Mages do more sustained dps then Locks by spamming frost bolts is beyond retarded.
Have you ever played arena before? Healers don't give a rats ass about nice sustained dps. We care about the ohshi-wtfbbq burst damage that kills our teamates before we are able to react and get a spell off in time to save them. If i can predict a steady stream of dps coming in, its not too hard to counter it as a healer because you would have to GREATLY out dps my hps to take the target down in a reasonable amount of time.
Chaos/Conflag is retarded.
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HoleofArt
The entire argument that Mages do more sustained dps then Locks by spamming frost bolts is beyond retarded.
Have you ever played arena before? Healers don't give a rats ass about nice sustained dps. We care about the ohshi-wtfbbq burst damage that kills our teamates before we are able to react and get a spell off in time to save them. If i can predict a steady stream of dps coming in, its not too hard to counter it as a healer because you would have to GREATLY out dps my hps to take the target down in a reasonable amount of time.
Chaos/Conflag is retarded.
Been watching this thread for awhile now, and while I agree Chaos/Conflag is stupid powerful, I also see the point of view of the warlocks.
But! Being squishy =/= getting to two shot everything.
It means you need to get more survivability.
So instead of argueing that your burst is justified, why aren't you complaining about your lack of survivability?
Also, I like the healer's point of view. In PvP, sustained dps is nothing. It's about burst right now. And it's the major flaw to Arena.
Or did you not notice the buffs to resilience and other things to make matches last longer?
When Blizzard finally fixes burst, trust me, Chaos/Conflag will be the first to go.
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