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Skreeran
Think of it this way: If a rape/kidnap victim develops a psychological disorder that causes them to become a psychopath who kills those they deem threats, I understand that what they do is wrong, but at the same time, I feel bad because of the circumstances that led to their disorder.
Sylvanas is wrong in wanting to kill the humans. I know that. I still feel sad for her suffering, which she did nothing to deserve.
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Post by
Adamsm
But that wouldn't explain Putress and Varithramas' Coup d'etat.
She didn't let them in on the scheme duh heh. And considering what they did..... do you blame her?
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Skreeran
But that wouldn't explain Putress and Varithramas' Coup d'etat.
She didn't let them in on the scheme duh heh. And considering what they did..... do you blame her?You still haven't replied to me. :(
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Adamsm
But that wouldn't explain Putress and Varithramas' Coup d'etat.
She didn't let them in on the scheme duh heh. And considering what they did..... do you blame her?You still haven't replied to me. :(
Er, sorry Skreeran, which part heh?
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Adamsm
As I've said a few times (and Rank seems to ignore it), the Blight is still being produced in Northrend, yes the Undercity is clean, but until all the Forsaken blight creating places are empty....... I can see it coming back again and again, either in the hands of the Alliance, the Horde or let's be honest: The Scourge, the Twilight Hammers or any of the other myrid of enemies that exist on Azeroth.
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Adamsm
Are you sure? Every place where it seems to be produced is before the Wrathgate. In other words, not in SP or Icecrown.
In other words those places don't count entirely, Blizzard may have forgotten to change those places. After all, it doesn't make sense.
"Thrall: I'll put my elite guard in the Undercity to so that the Forsaken can't produce Blight outside Northrend!"
Until we see solid proof the Blight is gone.... I'm accepting it's there, still being created, and again, possibly being created by the Lich King, as he's so fond of turning our own weapons against us.
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Adamsm
The "innocent woman" (who might not even be innocent, as Adam said, she could be a crusader) is nothing more than a testing animal to them.
Heh, crap, I'm not going to be quoted now am I heh?
Post by
Rankkor
The plague still exists, that is the point of RAS.
The guards are here to make sure to plague is not used against the Horde, but they dont care about humans
I've already provided a screenshot that says so the guards are making sure no plage is being developed, none at all.
the guard doesn't say "go easy on who you use that plage thing"
he says "any more of that plage nonsence and you will find my axe in unconfortable places"
pls read and analize that line inside and outside.
he calls the plage "nonsence" and doens't want "any more of it" failing to comply that rule means "having an axe in unconfortable places" aka execution.
if the horde wants the plage to be used against the alliance but not on themselves he would had said a diferent line.
also you may want to find on a dictionary the meaning of the word aphotecary.
their are alchemists and their goal is not exclusively to develop the blight, need I remind you that they developed a cure for the earlier stages of undead?
yhea they did, on the second scourge invation, and they also develop other forms of chemical solutions to be used in warfare such as the poison that rogues use.
when the aphotecary says " continue our work in peace" it's not saying they are developing plage, but rather moving on to the other functions of the RAS, all the evil ras members are dead, all the backstabing miserable bastards.
those that remain are now on such a tight leash that they litteraly can't do anything without the permission of the overseer, I mean I just stood there on their lab on the PTR; and there are about 3 scripted events of aphotecarys doing some chemical experiments and quickly orcs moving in, pushing them, looking closely what they are doing, all to prevent any further betrayal form happening.
Way to go, you just became the troll of the year
na, that' throne is yours. with the name-calling, and the personal atacks against everyone (even those who are on the alliance side but not on yours)
and don't reprimend me for posting stuff without reading clearly, since at another post you lashed at me for no reason at all just because I made a satirical hypotetical example about how we feel about garrosh leading, and even when it was an ovios simple example you still lashed at me, using name-calling once again.
No, the problem is that you are a whining, horde-baised, grudge holding guy who needs a chill pill because he cant control himself
as long as cute lines like those remain in your never-changing vocabulary, and as long as you don't stop getting personal with everyone who doens't obey your will, that throne of troll of the year is yours and only yours.
amen
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Rankkor
also, on the scourge using the forsaken blight
addams, what has that to do with anything?
I only made this post because quite a while ago, on a discussion about the wrathgate I did said that the forsaken halted their development of blight, and since there was no new lore to back it up, few agreed with that asessment.
now that lore has been added that backs up the fact that they are not developing, it doesn't mean it's gone for good.
this thing is like the T-virus from resident evil, you may kill, or neutralize the current bad-guy from using it, but others will always find it and do stuff with it.
same for the blight, the forsaken are not gonna use it anymore, that's for sure. but who's to say others wont?
I could tottaly picture Sky-marshal justin (captain of the skybreaker) loving to get a sample of it and use it on the horde.
I could tottaly picture magtha grimtotem getting a sample of it and using it on those she wants dead.
and I can completely picture the scourge/twilling hammer getting a sample of it for their own nefarius plans.
but as far as forsaken goes, no more plage, no way, no how.
delterious said so himself, on the cataclyms trailer, you can see that they don't use blight catapults anymore, only standard issue ones.
and as for the northrend areas, do this analizis adamns.
areas where the forsaken blight can be seen?
Howling fjord (wich on the timeline, all events here happen before the wrathgate) and dragonblight (to actually do the wrathgate you gotta do the forsaken dragonblight quests first)
and then where else?
no other horde base in northrend has blight, or even mentions the blight.
nobody can see that horrible crap on conquest hold, or the sunreaver post in crystalsong forest, or the 2 horde bases in storm peaks, or on the ogrim hammer gunship on northrend.
nowhere at all you see a single barrel of blight, only on the zones pre-wrathgate, and that's because to do these quests those barrlest have to be there.
now, if the scourge uses the blight, in adition to their own plage, that's a whole diferent tale, but as far as forsaken goes:
the plage. is . over.
as my grandpa said "there is no worst blind, than that who doesn't wish to see" (not meant as an insult addamns =] )
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Adamsm
no other horde base in northrend has blight, or even mentions the blight.
nobody can see that horrible crap on conquest hold, or the sunreaver post in crystalsong forest, or the 2 horde bases in storm peaks, or on the ogrim hammer gunship on northrend.
nowhere at all you see a single barrel of blight, only on the zones pre-wrathgate, and that's because to do these quests those barrlest have to be there.
now, if the scourge uses the blight, in adition to their own plage, that's a whole diferent tale, but as far as forsaken goes:
the plage. is . over.
as my grandpa said "there is no worst blind, than that who doesn't wish to see"The quote could actually work both ways there Rank, your blinded by your desire for the Forsaken to swing the other way; seeming to become a "good" and not as they were. Again, your not going to convince me that the Forsaken, enmass, are all on board with this new regime.... just because that goes against what the Forsaken are about. But like I said, I've explained, a few times why I don't trust Sylvanas, so, I hope the Blight is never used again, but we all know it will be.
Of course in a game play mechanic here: For all that people say the Blight is gone, we use it every 2 and half hours, during the Battle for Wintergrasp.... guess no one has told the defender's there not to use the Blight heh.
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Adamsm
I'm also sure that, as the Undead need the Horde, they wouldn't mind to pay this price. We are speaking about their survival after all.Thank the Titans we'll only see most of the Forsaken for about 100-150 years at the most. Sure the magical ones will be kicking around for longer, but as a whole, their a one generation species; they can't reproduce, can't repopulate, after their gone, that's it..... let's just hope as the final countdown begin's, they don't revert to their old ways and try to take everyone with her.
(Also, in the General thread, I put some thoughts on Sylvanas, look there for how I really feel about her.)
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