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Humanity Should Reach for the Stars
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Post by
HiVolt
I think we should probably be talking about fixing the national debt, feeding ourself, prison overcrowding, abortion, government growth, constitutionality of the federal reserve, religions, environment, homosexuality, and any number of things that are worth our time.
Some of these are definitely necessary to work on before moving out into space, for sure. Others, I don't think so.
We would definitely need to fix the national debt before expanding into space, as well as coming up with a solution to prison overcrowding (maybe a super-max prison on the moon? :O). And we would definitely need to work on the environment before branching out as well. The Central Banking system definitely needs to be revised and reviewed at the very least.
Some of the other issues are not so prevalent that we need to worry about them if expanding into space. Abortion may be an issue for
some
many people, but for others it's the furthest thing from their minds. The same goes for religion and homosexuality. These are social issues, not scientific or economic. If they were either of those then they would definitely need to be addressed before expansion.
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Patty
Had to be done.
:3
Cheesy pop <3
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124027
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Post by
MyTie
TOTALLY off topic, but are you a college student MyTie?
I take courses as I can afford to, time and money.
Post by
MyTie
That's the first thing people always say when the idea of strengthining our presence in outer space is mentioned. That is all well and good, but frankly, I don't ever see when all of those things will no longer be an issue. It just doesn't seem possible. Call me pessimistic, but honestly...
Yet you are optimistic about 'strengthening our presence in outer space'? Seriously? I don't think you understand what that entails, and the difficulty to reach it.
You: I want to go build a city... made of
SOLID GOLD
!
Me: That sounds pretty difficult. Maybe you should put some shoes on first.
You: Put my shoes on? I'm pretty pessimistic about the possibility of that happening.
Me: You don't think this stuff out much do you?
Post by
HiVolt
Yet you are optimistic about 'strengthening our presence in outer space'? Seriously? I don't think you understand what that entails, and the difficulty to reach it.I'd say there's even more difficulty with reaching a solution on the issues of Abortion, Homosexuality and Religion than there is with getting a moon base set up.
But I do understand what you mean, and like I said, there are definitely more prevalent issues that need to be handled beforehand.
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147929
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Post by
MyTie
(i am not talking baby killing...the more important stuff like ozone layer sh**)
I resent my humanity.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
(i am not talking baby killing...the more important stuff like ozone layer sh**)
I resent my humanity.
I resent his humanity...I like mine.
lol
Post by
MyTie
If it is possible for a human being to reach the conclusion that that one did, then it is possible for me to reach the same conclusion. I find his thought process so extremely repulsive, that I wish he were a different a species than me, so that I could hope his thoughts were impossible to me.
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124027
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451639
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MyTie
If it is possible for a human being to reach the conclusion that that one did, then it is possible for me to reach the same conclusion. I find his thought process so extremely repulsive, that I wish he were a different a species than me, so that I could hope his thoughts were impossible to me.
Homo sum, nihil humani a me alienum puto. Try to understand the other human, don't shut it out, don't shut yourself out.
It's not that I don't understand him. Global warming conspiracy > Dead babies. It's very clear.
My problem isn't my inability to hear and understand. It's not that I am intolerant, or religious, or closed minded, or bigoted, or anything else your peta fund raising vegan of a girlfriend tells you I am. The problem is that I understand too well the probability that global warming is simply a tool used by government to leverage its way on top of economic production through fear mongering, and I also understand the probability that abortion is murder. When I hear someone buy into the hype to such a degree that the innocent life of babies is shrugged off so callously in favor of an Al Gore movie, it hurts my insides.(i am not talking baby killing...the more important stuff like ozone layer sh**)Repulses me, for all the right reasons.
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451639
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
@ MyTie
I did not try to say that either of you is right, or that you are bigoted. I just thought that you were a bit to dismissive of him, unwilling to accept his opinion although you disagree with it, and I disliked that. Now I see that you are mostly just emotional.
If someone came up to you and said that 9/11 was the least of our concerns, wouldn't you just dismiss his views instantaneously?
Some opinions aren't open for or worthy of acceptance.
Post by
MyTie
@ MyTie
I did not try to say that either of you is right, or that you are bigoted. I just thought that you were a bit to dismissive of him, unwilling to accept his opinion although you disagree with it, and I disliked that. Now I see that you are mostly just emotional.
I don't just dismiss his opinion. I loathe it. I don't care that you dislike that I won't "accept" his opinion. His opinion is that the ozone is a bigger deal than abortion.
Crazy Person: Frogs need filtered water! They sit in ponds all day with dirt in thier water! This is more important than curing cacer.
Me: Not really, no. Cancer is a huge problem, and frog water is just something that is made up.
Zerdav: Why are you so dismissive of his opinion? You are just emotional.
Me: /facepalm
Post by
HiVolt
Some opinions aren't open for acceptance.
This is subjective though. What may be open for acceptance to some many not be for others. However the acceptance of someone else's opinion as
their opinion
should, in my mind, be universal.
You may not enjoy the idea, but no one is forcing you to agree with it. It's one thing to disagree with or ignore an idea,but it's another matter completely to ridicule said idea.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Some opinions aren't open for acceptance.
This is subjective though. What may be open for acceptance to some many not be for others. However the acceptance of someone else's opinion as
their opinion
should, in my mind, be universal.
You may not enjoy the idea, but no one is forcing you to agree with it. It's one thing to disagree with or ignore an idea,but it's another matter completely to ridicule said idea.
If you mean by that we should accept
the fact
that
it is their opinion
, that's pretty obvious. However, some opinions are not open for acceptance (that the moon is made out of green cheese, that killing the ozone layer is more of a travesty than killing babies, that Nickleback's music is actually considered music :P, etc.)
Post by
MyTie
Some opinions aren't open for acceptance.
This is subjective though. What may be open for acceptance to some many not be for others. However the acceptance of someone else's opinion as
their opinion
should, in my mind, be universal.
You may not enjoy the idea, but no one is forcing you to agree with it. It's one thing to disagree with or ignore an idea,but it's another matter completely to ridicule said idea.
So, no opinions can be so extremely objectively false as to merit ridicule?
If it is my opinion that steamed broccoli pops out of french people's mouths every tuesday at 4pm, then that is perfectly acceptible?
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