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DSitC
I like it the way the system is set up on the PTR right now. Works perfectly in my opinion. It's very convenient to have greed and disenchant on the same priority.
Mainspec = Need
Offspec = Greed
No spec = Disenchant
If you group agrees that offspec should have priority over no spec, you should just roll need. But the default is quite fair imho.
And don't get all worked up over this change. Enchanting for your group is just common courtesy, something every player should adhere to. It makes pug runs enjoyable and get's you invited back. ;-)
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DSitC
Again,
"your services are being used to do something that (if you're nice) you would do anyways. "
. Notice there is NO longer any choice being given?
What is the enchanter isn't nice? What if the enchanters says NO? Is the enchanter really "begging for it", even if he/she says NO?
Oh wait, I guess enchanters clicked on a EULA, so they are "BEGGING FOR IT"?
You make being a nice person sound like a mental illness... :-P
If you're not nice, you don't join cross-realm-pugs. Then you won't be forced to use the new need before greed option. Problem solved.
Post by
freedfromthereal
Icebeard7, I don't think you quite understand nor comprehend the idea of playing World of Warcraft.
When you first sign in either on patch day or the first time the game is opened you sign an EULA which
clearly states
that anything you make, do, say, or even create in game does not belong to you. Because it does not belong to you, you do not have a say as to what happens with it. If you do not understand that then there's no point in arguing with you; the basis of the argument in this thread as of now is choice, and it's clearly stated in the EULA that your game character, its skills, professions, 200 mounts, and e-peen stroking epics do not belong to you, nor does the freedom of choice in matters such as this.
As DSitC summed up: simply don't do cross-realm pugs. Enjoy your mats.
Post by
MikadoGG
I am sooo glad they are seriously thinking of implementing this change. I have an enchanter, my boyfriend has an enchanter and we are in agreement that this will accomplish the same thing that happens in our groups now, but without us having to put effort into it. We already roll on all blue gear, DE it and roll on shards. Now it will be easier to do the SAME thing in the process of the run instead of having to stop to DE, separate the shard from our own shards, trade with people or have to stay at the end of the run and roll.
I am so stoked about cross-realm instances too. Yay for new pet, new achievement and meeting new people.
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Post by
JemiS
Freedfromthereal, you realize this system does not just apply to cross-realm PUGS, but all groups, whether PuG or not?
This is a nice option, but it should be an option- for multiple reasons. In runs with friends, it's much easier to shard everything and distribute at the end- that's not really possible to easily do anymore.
In guild runs, it was nice to just have Need- main spec, greed- offspec, and the enchanter greeds everything. Throw all the mats in the guild bank. This, again, is no longer possible.
Have it be a new 'loot distribution option' that the leader can select- regular group roll, or the new NBG system.
Or, just switch it back so that greed roll trumps a DE roll, and we can all be happy.
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parnasistis
i have enchanting 450 skill on my alt with tailoring and leatherworking/engineering 450 both on my main.i find this change on enchanting very usefull.enchanting is the only proffesion that provides you the mats you need to lvl up without having to gather up mats.you only need at least green items.since inscription released and vellums came up there is NO excuse to say "i paid tones of money to lvl up it"!enchanters just want to earn tones of money without effort!i lvl up engineering and leatherworking from 1-450 spenting tones of gold on buying mats and i dont complain!but i didnt spent 1g(!) to lvl up enchanting and i earn lots of money not with scrolls but putting de mats on ah.do u thing this is fair for all the others who chose another prof and want to enchant their gear quite often since we change gear very often?i really hate when i go to a heroic and the enchanter needs on all the blue and epic we pass and at the end he leaves without let us roll.same on raids especially voa where you can not at least sell the items and everyone passses them.i have destroyed at least 4-5 times tiers pieces from voa cause i had better gear and non of the enchanters didnt want to de it.And do u thing fait to sell 5G(!) a f*****ing infinity dust on AH?when i need 40 for example to enchant my staff with 81sp?did you see any JCer cry like a little baby because you can buy epic uncut gems with honor and emblems?NO!becasue you dont have problem with that since you buy FREE epic gems and pay just a small fee10g(on my server) to cut it!so all the enchanters calm down.enchanting was from the beginning of wow the most expensive enchant not to lvl up but for those who wanted enchants and where forced to buy extremmely expensive the mats.since arctic fur will be purchased for 10 heavy borean dont blame skinners it's stupid.also in a heroic there is a chance to drop 1-2 arctic fur but 100% for void crystal and shards!
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Wildhorn
My point is that enchanters should have the right to refuse THIER service. It is NOT about greed or who makes more gold, or cross server instances. It ALL boils down to the fact that others can use an enchanters profession for thier own personal benifit, without the enchanter having any choice in the matter. You seem to be trying to point out that Enchanting is 2 professions, so it is OK use thier profession without thier permission. Others still see only $$$ signs and are happing to get one over on enchanters as they see them as rich and greedy people. Rather ironic, these people QQing about enchanters and all the easy money they should be sharing, yet don't bother roll one themselves...
What about then that Blizzard remove DE from enchanters and allow everybody to DE? Would you still QQ? You would no more be "used".
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