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Festergut/rotface 10 overtuned?
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Just to clarify things, I wasn't really referring to the fights strategy-wise but gear-check wise. I appreciate hard, but hard is different from the 10-man encounter laughing in your face because you don't have 25-man gear.
Seems to me that everyone saying they needed a couple of tries then downed the bosses were speaking about 25 man or overgeared the 10man versions.
In the 10 man festergut, the tanks were getting lolstomped and the raid was taking way too much damage for a resto shammy/disc priest/holy pally combo to heal.
Since the fight can be divided in 4 phases:
1: tank fine, some individuals (1-2) in raid in high probability of dying
2. tank is starting to get hit harder, disc priest shifts slowly to him
3. tank is in high probability of getting gibbed, raid is fine
4. tank is instagibbed <-- this is where you use cooldowns, but normally we didn't reach that phase
We are a strict 10-man guild. I suspect that this fight would be really easy in 25 gear, but the tanks average 232 gear (some 245, one-two 213, one 251) and this encounter should technically be tuned according to that (blizzard doesn't tune 10-mans for people geared in 25-man stuff).
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Again... did anyone in a strict 10 go against these encounters?
Here's what guildox says about the plagueworks 10m achievement:
Achievement rates: World 0.52%, 25m guilds 1.59%, 10m-strict guilds 0%
There's only one 10m-strict that has it ATM.
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ToC-25 and ToGC-10 have the same ilvl of gear
That's cool except I'm not sure you're supposed to be full 245 to do the 5th boss of icecrown.
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Stuff.
Well said, sir.
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ToC-25 and ToGC-10 have the same ilvl of gear
That's cool except I'm not sure you're supposed to be full 245 to do the 5th boss of icecrown.
Why shouldn't you be. You should be in nearly full 213s before doing 226 Ulduar 25m. You should be in nearly full 226s before doing 245 ToC.
Besides, you've had 4 weeks of badges and gear drops from the first four bosses of Icecrown. In your 25 man main raid we have 15 people with 245 or higher average item level. The other 10 are 238-244 average item level. We've downed a few bosses in ToGC, but it wasn't ever on farm. Most of the gear we have is crafted, frost emblem, or drops from ICC10 and ICC25.
Like I said, Rotface took a bunch of attempts. Festergut was about 5 attempts for us (because for an inexplicable reason our boomkin kept dying early and we kept hitting enrage at 5%).
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Why shouldn't you be
Because 245 is toc25? why would you need toc25 to do icc10?
Like I said, Rotface took a bunch of attempts. Festergut was about 5 attempts for us (because for an inexplicable reason our boomkin kept dying early and we kept hitting enrage at 5%).
that's 25. thread is about 10.
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