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Arcane vs Frost PvP
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Arcane is better for more burst, Frost for more survivability.
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Arcane is better for more burst, Frost for more survivability.
This is too often the typical summary for this debate; it's an oversimplification, and for too many hypothetical situations, it's just wrong.
The real difference between Frost and Arcane for PvP is control- frost has better control. Frost depends on this control to deal damage. A Frost mage's damage output will rise as his control of his opponent(s) successfully rises. I'm not convinced Arcane has better burst potential than Frost for PvP, and even supposing it did, I still don't think it'd be certain it has better
effective
burst than Frost (burst that is difficult to counter or heal through). In any case, IMO, Frost takes a great deal more skill/knowledge to realize this burst.
Arcane does better in BG's because BG's rely less on control. Basically, you take a modified PvE spec into a PvP situation with the key additions of Slow (your godspell), Improved Counterspell (your caster-killer), and Prismatic Cloak (instant invisibility). You find a healer and you do your best to find people who aren't looking at you and bomb them with a typical PvE rotation. Since Arcane Blast carries its buff across targets, you can down a half dozen targets in under 30 seconds given that they're preoccupied with your teammates.
Arena= Frost (Fire does well in a few comps)
BG= Arcane (Frost or Fire are also playable)
I feel that Frost is better against 1-2 opponents, and Arcane is better for 3 or more (assuming that you aren't part of a 3v3 or 5v5 team that strategizes together...it's easier to adapt with Arcane in these larger skirmishes with guys you don't know, or when by yourself...Arcane has flat-out more "survivability" against overwhelming forces simply because of Prismatic Cloak). Above 5, I'd always take Arcane.
Then again, I'm not Gameking. I've watched him basically 1v5 people with Frost. I don't think there's any doubt (and this couldn't be more strongly reinforced by the Top 100 Leaderboard) that Frost has the best potential domination when it's truly understood, and I'm not there yet.
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