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Doubts about AP over Agility trend?
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Post by
spankinator
I have a combat spec rogue, respeced for the new poison talents as per most.
This is fine i have noticed better dmg output since swapping.
BUT...
Then i have seen most rogues and read in all the forums that now if you want to stay viable as combat spec, given that most people (no offense intended) are sheep and have gone mute, that you should be gemming for AP, haste and crit.
At first i read the theorycraft behind it and i admit at the time it made sense, however....
Being lazy i changed my dragonseyes to ap instead of agility and left it at that, thinking id swap my other gems when i got round to it.
Then i noticed i was going into all my raids and still laying waste to the other rogues dps and dmg output and im not talking a little, by up to 2k dps at times.
These guys in some cases are way better geared and better talented one would hope as some come from my realms top guilds.
One example is on saurfang 25icc, my dps was sitting on 12-13k for most of the fight, the rogue in raid with me outgeard me according to gearscore by 250 (5.5k to his 5.76k score) and looking at his achieves he had stuff il never get, given i am a casual raider, he sat on 9-10k and my dmg output was way more as well.
Please explain this if anyone can as atm i say stuff regemming and wasting gold, especially with cataclysm coming and AP being droped as a gem stat and Agility being the rule.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
I also have my doubts about AP! On a hunch i decided to gem defense to the cap and str, and last night in ICC 25 i saw a 2k dps boost!
please take note rogue community, def/str
that is all
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84760
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Post by
spankinator
lol well obviously the people who read these forums, either dont bother replying to questions, or are #$%^s who just qq instead of offering anything valuable!
It is a reasonable query i have made and one would expect a reasonable reply or advice but what do i get 2 10yr olds judging by the responses
cheers guys
ps as for my gems, as stated in my topic, my dps is just fine so obviously there isnt a problem with them and elwood66 u apparently know ^&*! all :) go advise ur ej il keep playing the way i am and keep topping my raid charts and progressing just fine imo. Remember mate this is a game we dont all play to stroke our e#$%^& as u obviously think, some of us just wanna have fun and if asking a simple question is that insulting to u maybe your one of those leet *!@#s i enjoy shaming each week :)
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261871
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84760
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Post by
Liquoid
One example is on saurfang 25icc, my dps was sitting on 12-13k for most of the fight
Provide the log.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
lol well obviously the people who read these forums, either dont bother replying to questions, or are #$%^s who just qq instead of offering anything valuable! no one is QQing
learn the interspeak before you use it
lIt is a reasonable query i have made and one would expect a reasonable reply or advice but what do i get 2 10yr olds judging by the responses
cheers guys it wasn't a reasonable query, one quick skim by anyone who knows what they are talking about and it is apparent you pulled any numbers you used from your rectum
also, curse more in your posts
It really makes you look adult
Post by
KidB
Provide proof, math, theories, ANYTHING or get the &*!@ out. We aren't interested in anecdotes about your dps on saurfang.
Also, gearscore.
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320076
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Post by
Ippon
Provide proof, math, theories, ANYTHING or get the &*!@ out. We aren't interested in anecdotes about your dps on saurfang.
Also, gearscore.
And by "anecdotes", you meant "lies", because there's no way in hell he was hitting 12-13k.
Post by
Feanora
Seriously, screenshot or log link or it didn't happen. Otherwise I'll happily tell you all about the time i hit 20k on Festergut, and
you can't prove that it didn't happen, so thhhhhhhhhhhptttttttt
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115964
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Post by
Verelakai
Seems the OP may be the best combat rogue in the world. Or probably just pulling numbers out of his ass WHICH ONE IS IT?
I'm going with the latter because he obviously is the best combat rogue in the world.
Post by
Sgtpain
Makes me feel better seeing that 11k something is the record on Deathbringer. As one of the top 10s guilds and very competative 25 guild, I was trying to figure out how my guild wasn't seeing anything over 9.5k on deathbringer when it just seems like we should be doing 11k+ with all of the "Rogues are doing 13k and are too OP talk". Oh, our server isn't leet btw, so top guild is sort of relative, but we still do very well.
That said, I believe that if you read the EJ forums, you will see that some who are using spread sheets with BiS pieces, it takes very little to sway what is the best thing to gem for. I believe that one person said he played with a couple numbers/pieces and got it to tell him to gem ArP or hit. Quite interesting. As a general rule, it's going to be AP, but there are a few circumstances, it seems, that might call for something else. Unfortunately, no one can really tell you what they are, only a spreadsheet can with your current gear.
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