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Yet another tanking spec (hybrid)
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Post by
hashmel
It's a blood/frost mix without the single target threat of blood or the aoe snap aggro of frost.
If you invest that much into frost it's a waste to do anything other than pick up HB.
Post by
woohaa
well his post and spec is about survivability and not threat...so maybe we should discuss that portion of the topic? instead of how much it fails because of the lack of HS, HB, FS, impDS
so i guess i'll go first. As far as cds/talents go you gave up vamp blood and will of the necropolis for unbreakable armor. UBA is a nice talent, especially when glyphed but i think as far as talents go vamp blood is probably a stronger talent. you got icy talons and imp icy talons which in most tanking guides are usually not a recommended tanking talent. Most of your threat is based off your skills and not white dmg. Your also increasing the chance of parry haste so in doing so lowering survivability. Hungering cold is probably one of those CDS you'll use once in your wow career as a defensive CD. i'm not sure what else to say i'm sure others will have more comments but that's as far as i'm going to go. I did attempt to replace some talents and well i think no matter what you do that spec isn't gonna work realistically.
Post by
Thror
Oh wow, Glyph of Icebound Fortitude. I need a handkerchief.
Jack of two trades - master of none. Thats what you aim for with this build. Survivability is not everything. Of course, it is extremely important, but it is absolutely useless if you can not hold the boss on yourself. 60% or 62% mitigation, who cares, when the boss just killed two hunters and a feral druid?
By aiming for the survivability talents you missed the crucial threat talents of both trees. Frost is nothing without Frost Strike, Rime and HB, and Blood is useless without Heart Strike and buffed up Death Strike. Picking "Death Rune Mastery" in the blood tree and "Annihilation" in the frost tree is a really bad combo... but i am getting too much into the details here.
Stick to the cookie cutter builds, or copy a build from some awesomely equipped DK with 41k hp unbuffed. You could even ask him why he uses the build he has, and what does he see as its advantages and disadvantages.
Post by
MegaVolt
It sucks. Even the survivability is lower than with a pure blood build.
The reason is
Will of the Necropolis
.
It's one of the most awesome tanking cooldowns ever, it's available all the time and it is completely passive.
It will shrug off 15% of almost every attack that would potentially insta-gib you. Yes, you will have 3% less static mitigation but you will have 15% mitigation on almost all hits that count (the ones that hit you hard and get your health low, you know the ones you can die from).
Trading this totally ridiculously awesome talent for a little bit of passive mitigation is completely pointless.
Post by
skribs
So basically...
You're using Obliterate without the chance to proc Rime, or Death Strike without the improvements in Blood.
You're using Killing Machine without Frost Strike or Howling Blast.
You're using Icy Talons...as a tank...with a 2H.
You went 5 into Dark Conviction but 0 into Bloody Vengeance.
In Frost, you missed out on Guile of Gorefiend, and in Blood on Vampiric Blood and Will of the Necropolis.
You further sacrifice TPS by skipping out on Scent of Blood over less powerful talents like Dark Conviction
You chose Death Rune Mastery, which will slightly help AoE but do nothing for single target.
In all honesty, VB+WotN > 6 sec of IBF + UBA. Using Imp DS over Oblit is going to be more "mitigation" than Imp FP and Frigid Deathplate unless you are taking ~18.75% of your max health every second as blood (after avoidance and mitigation), which will only happen on very few bosses.
Summary: You'll lose a gigantic amount of threat in this spec, and still have less mitigation than a Blood DK. Going deeper into Frost would cost you 3% stamina (not a big loss) and 1 expertise, but give you 6 seconds on IBF, as well as Frost Strike and Howling Blast. Or you can switch to Blood and get the benefits there.
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Post by
skribs
It does bring to mind the old
DW DPS "Tri"-Spec
back when Howling Blast was the 31 and Hungering Cold the 51 talent point, and before Threat of Thassarian was in-game. Pretty sure that wasn't exactly it but something along those lines. I'm not sure but I think Rime had a different effect and OB was barely even used.
EDIT: Fixed the link, I think that was closer to it.
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