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DK dps vs Rogue/Mage
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Post by
Mach666
Hey
I was doing ICC 10 with my guild a couple of days ago. My question is really if any1 else has noticed that some classes i.e. rogue and mage (arcane) is capable of better dps on dps race-bosses than DKs? On Saurfang I managed 5.2 -5.5k dps while the rogue ended up on 5.8. On Festergut I managed 5.8-6k, while the rogue and arcane mage did about 6.8. Both of them outgear me with about 100 gearscore, which shouldnt really make that much of a difference. I got 5.1k GS in unholy spec. Is it just me doing something wrong, or are DKs lacking in pure single target dps vs. certain other classes?
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Post by
Mach666
well, I have noticed this happening other times, in addition the one I'm referring to. As I said, our gear is not much different, and I am hit (soft) and exp capped. As for the rotation I use PS-IT-BS-SS-BS-SS- with DCs whenever I get an opening. Spec is taken from EJ, so I don't think that explains the over 1k dps gap.
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Post by
woohaa
honestly i think we're doing fine in the dps department. nothing to really complain about. now if i was a warlock i think i'd complain. their a pure dps class and blizzard is still trying to buff them a bit to bring them up to par. only problem is blizz's fear of over buffing.
word of advice: if we're not in the bottom 5 of the 10 classes, just be happy they haven't nerfed us into the ground.
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Post by
neomasterc
I do 9k easily on any single target fight as unholy. Rogues and arcane mages may tear you apart, but not always.
Post by
Izichial
3. He had higher GS then you
People using "higher GS" as equivalent to "better gear" is one of the must loathsome behaviours to ever plague the playerbase of this game.
If OP would link his/her armory this thread might still turn reasonably constructive in the advice department. With similar gear and balanced raid buffs you should probably not be more than a few hundred dps behind a mage/rogue on those particular fights mentioned, often being neck to neck with the mage(s) with the rogue(s) pulling up just ahead if my recent logs are anything to go by.
Post by
TheRealAzoth
On Saurfang DPS charts usually look like this in 25 mans. It's usually the same for Fetergut as well.
Rogue
Rogue
Rogue (If we have 3)
DK
DK
DK (If we have 3)
Everthing else...
Seriously rogues are still on top but not by the 1-2k DPS that they were before the nerf. Ranged have to switch to the adds and usually any debufs they had on the boss are gone by the time they switch back so it's another 10 seconds or so to ramp back up.
Festergut is probably a better gauge as there is very little movement usually unless you get 2 spores in one group. A lot has to do with the length of the fight as well, arcane has a lot of CD's they can pop if the fight only lasts a few mins.
I agree with Izichial, GS means that you got boss drops, nothing more. It is in no way shape or form a rating of skill. Having all 245 non tier pieces will get you a nice GS but you lose out on DPS boosts.
Link your profile so we can take a closer look at gear / spec / glyphs / etc...
In the end, just be happy you're not a shadow priest or Ele shaman... :)
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Post by
neomasterc
Although I would never be able to take my mage on my DK on an average heroic boss.... my God, with a bloodlusting shammy I have have hit 13.5k dps in a heroic. Which is just ridiculous.
I have absolutely no complaints about DK dps though.
Hysteria+BL+DRW= GG for heroics. therefore heroic dps doesnt count.
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