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Post by
irishsnout
this is my armory link.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodscalp&cn=Gibson
I am holy now but have heard that disc is more mana efficient.
My issue is that I am constantly drinking. I do the normal shield tank with renew and flash heal. I dont think my gear is that bad so should I respec to disc till I hit 80 or is there something I am forgetting about?
Post by
Gargo
Hi,
Im not that good in answering your question sens you are so much higher lvl then me. Im only 51 but I can tell you that untill lvl 48 I whas holy and whas I need of drinking after almost every pull. Then I spec disc and don´t need to drink pritty much at all. Disc has so much more goodies to give you, more mana sheaper spells and more mp5. 50% back while casting. Try it out m8. You will love it!
And read up on the sticky. It´s all there.
//Gargo
Post by
MegaVolt
For fresh 80s (and people that aren't 80 yet) disc is considered the more mana efficient spec. If your mana issues are so annoying then yes, a respec might help.
You could also try being more mana efficient with holy. Pre-80 (in non-heroic dungeons) a reactive healing style usually works very good. Later you will have to spam heal to keep people alive but in non heroics the damage isn't high enough yet.
So you can skip the shield and the HoT and just FH the tank when his health has dropped a bit.
Just be aware that this is not "good" healing and you have to get rid of that habit as soon as you enter "serious" content.
Post by
Meggie
Holy Flash Heal is a build for 25 man raids. And even then, it's a workaround for a missing healer.
If you want Holy have a go with Greater Heal. Drop the Flash Heal oriented talents.
Post by
dhampir1989
Your build is fine, I suspect your biggest issue is just the massively lower regen you experience while levelling, combined with some overhealing issues.
Not to mention that sub 80 tanks (particularly Death Knights) require a lot more healing proportionally than level 80 ones.
While people do say disc is more "mana efficient", I found it more of a chore than holy for levelling due to the totally pants nature of it's AoE heals, and the tendancy for sub-80 groups to be a bit... special (read 4 "tank" Ramparts).
Also, I'd stick with Flash Heal, but change your glyphs, pick up Glyph of Circle of Healing, and either stick with Flash Heal for now, or switch to Prayer of Healing.
Post by
karlusdavius
Holy Flash Heal is a build for 25 man raids. And even then, it's a workaround for a missing healer.
If you want Holy have a go with Greater Heal. Drop the Flash Heal oriented talents.
try reading the topic again. He is having mana problems yet you want him to spend over 1k mana on greater heal? i don;t think so. What megavolt suggested is perfect.
Post by
Nazeka
It may be 1k mana, but wouldn't it be more mana efficient, since its a larger heal? In addition, since its a larger heal, he can regen a little bit more mana inbetween casts as he waits for the tank's hp to drop to the point where its no worthless overheal
I'm Disc on my leveling priest (70), so I don't know much about holy
Post by
OscarDivine
It may be 1k mana, but wouldn't it be more mana efficient, since its a larger heal? In addition, since its a larger heal, he can regen a little bit more mana inbetween casts as he waits for the tank's hp to drop to the point where its no worthless overheal
I'm Disc on my leveling priest (70), so I don't know much about holy
We aren't trying to escape the 5SR anymore, this was our MO back in BC, but times have changed. We look for Holy Concentration procs to gain us our regen and passive returns with Replenishment and such.
Post by
MegaVolt
The mana efficiency of FH and GH isn't really that different. Yes, GH wins but only by a tiny margin.
With FH in non-heroics you can safely let the tanks health drop far enough so that you will always get a 100% effective heal. Just wait till he is missing enough health and then start casting. In any serious raid a healing strategy like that will result in a dead tank but pre-80 it is ok.
If you try the same thing with GH it gets risky, even pre-80. To get a 100% effective heal off with GH you will have to let the tank drop very low on hp. It is the slightly more efficient spell on paper but realistically you can't use GH in a reactive healing style without risking wipes, that's why I'd stick to FH.
Just keep in mind: Reactive healing is bad, hmkay? It's only good for saving mana, don't get too used to it, you will have to spam heal much more once you enter hard content.
Post by
Crysania
Drinking as holy is perfectly normal until you get better gear (after you start raiding). As long as you aren't running out of mana during fights then really, you don't have mana issues.
Greater Heal can be helpful mana-wise. It's about the same healing as 2 Flash Heals but only costs about 70% more with Improved Healing; and with Divine Fury and 3 stacks of Serendipity it won't take much longer to cast than 1 Flash Heal. As long as your tank isn't taking too much spike damage you can sit back and wait to till they take enough damage for the GH to be useful.
The
Circle of Healing Glyph
is more of a raiding glyph, it won't really help in 5 man dungeons. If you are going to fill your 2nd major slot, I would recommend
Guardian Spirit
since it becomes a much more useful talent with the glyph.
Post by
OscarDivine
Greater Heal can be helpful mana-wise. It's about the same healing as 2 Flash Heals but only costs about 70% more with Improved Healing; and with Divine Fury and 3 stacks of Serendipity it won't take much longer to cast than 1 Flash Heal. As long as your tank isn't taking too much spike damage you can sit back and wait to till they take enough damage for the GH to be useful.
The problem with this here is that you have to then spec for Improved healing, which doesn't exist in most raid healing specs, so for raiding at higher levels, this should be omitted. That said, GHeal will cost you more.
Post by
Crysania
He's level 75, so he isn't raiding yet. He already has the points in Improved Healing, so why not make use of them? Once he gets to 80 he can respec and move those points somewhere more important like Healing Prayers/Holy Reach for raid healing, or he could try disc healing to see if he likes that.
Post by
irishsnout
well thanks for the help guys. I'm used to reactive healing due to my shaman. I'll mess around with it and mabe dump shadow for disc for a while. See what I like more then make a more permanent change when in heroics
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