Is it worth it to get to Arm pen hard cap?

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Post by cranial

hmm i used the wowhead profiler to see my arm pen if i gem for it..

it turns out to be about 75%.. so should i replace all the gems to arm pen or should i wait for better gear with armpen?

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Post by bantay

i run 7/57/7 mm and ive noticed that if i replace all my + 20 agi gems with + 20 arp gems (which puts me at 1408 when NES procs, i actually lose 5-10 dps, its a trade off i lose a lot of crit about 5% for arp cap, even with (according to the spreadsheet) mjolnir runestone which procs off of chance on hit, instead of chance on crit the increase is not worth it, imo. plus, even gemmed for arp when i switch NES to a better trink like whispering fanged skull i see a 100+ dps increase. with my gear and my spec i would say not worth it.

the better question maybe is it good to hit 80% passive arp? as i see most hunters here have 600-700 arp + NES and hitting arp cap w/ trink proc(722arp+NES to be exact). i also see some hunters in my realm gemming arp just to hit soft cap, i dont know if thats good.
with good gears from TOC and NES i was able to get softcap without gemming arp. but getting more gears from ICC and getting the 2pc set T10(ilvl264) im now at 630 something arp passive still getting increased dps. with my current gears and the gears i can posssibly obtain i can only hit 80%+ passive arp if i gem for it. thats why i always ask, is 80% passive arp enough to gem for it?

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Post by bantay

NES is a horrible trinket, you would be much better off with getting Grim Toll or the trink from Throrim 10 HM. It procs 10% chance off a crit meaning it's usually never up, and I believe has an internal CD of 1 minute. That's not a good trink for arp, go for grim toll until you can get Deathbringer's, and it might improve your dps.

have you tried femaledwarf.com for that conclusion? NES dont proc very well if you have low crit. it proc very well for me in raid, having 60%+ crit always will help(66% most of the time). its an upgrade from those trinket you mentioned if your a MM.