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Post by
HxCory
I already have my 2 blue sockets filled with the Sp/Spi gems. So my meta activation is not a real big deal. I was wondering when I should skip the Blue socket bonus when it's 7 or more in favor for a straight up red +23 SP, rather than the +12/10 that will fit my Blue bonus.
I play as Demo and my armory is :
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&cn=Epsroc
So my question is, how much bonus sp from the blue socket is enough to socket for the hybrid rather than the straight 23? Would +7 be worth it? and I'm almost 100% sure that +9 is worth it.
Post by
asakawa
we're getting to the point (with demo particularly) that spirit is worth a lot. the only accurate answer for you is to sim your character.
without us simming it for you any answer would just be an educated guess.
that said, first make sure the 2 blues you need to have are making the most of the potential bonuses available.
having a cursory glance your gemming looks ok. any decision either way would be a difference of single digit dps.
Post by
HxCory
Thanks for the quick reply, asakawa, most of your posts have helped me in my gear and gem choices already.
That being said, I will sim my char, but as you said, it will probably be a very slight DPS difference.
Post by
nossy
Yes, 12 sp/10spirit is better for a blue socket with +7 or +9 bonus.
Put in perspective.
with kings it is 11 spirit (10*1.1)
So total spell power from 11 spirit is: 11*0.3 (fel armor)+11*0.2 (glyph of life tap) = 5.5 spell power
12+5.5+7(from bonus) = 24.5 which is more than a 23 sp gem.
This is assuming there's not another yellow socket that you will need to fullfill that socket to get the bonus.
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Post by
nossy
Why not? 24.5 sp is more than 23, is it not? unless my math is wrong. But anyway, it's not that much of a difference that it would magically make you do 500 more dps, if even 5-10dps. So if you have already gemmed it with something, why waste 150-200g to replace it?
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Post by
LookOut
So total spell power from 11 spirit is: 11*0.3 (fel armor)+11*0.2 (glyph of life tap) = 5.5 spell power
The OP is demo, which means you forgot to take demonic aegis into account.
11 * 0.4 + 11 * 0.2 = 6.6 SP
This makes blue gems even worth it if the socket bonus is 5 SP!
12 + 6.6 + 5 = 23.6
12 + 6.6 + 7 = 25.6
12 + 6.6 + 9 = 27.6
Ofc, this is (as doccsi said) not accurate at all, even more so due to the fact that a 7 or 9 SP socket bonus usually comes from multiple sockets (helmet is normally the exception). This means that, if you have 2 blue sockets with a 7 SP bonus, it's not worth putting SP/spi gems in it since the bonus per gem is only 3.5 SP.
Just some fun math on the side. Simming is still the answer here.
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Post by
skribs
Except EJ is now saying that you should be using Glyphs of Conflag, Incinerate, and Imp, resulting in the LT portion not being a factor. So it's 11*0.39 (for demonic aegis) = 4.29 + 12 = 16.29 + 7 = 23.29. But it still is better with a +7 bonus.
And for those saying that the math is flawed...yes a sim is better than napkin math. But when the results are a constant 23.29 SP vs. a constant 23 SP, there's no way the former will be less DPS than the later. Otherwise everyone would walk around in greens because they have less SP.
Post by
asakawa
OP is demo not destro and don't be too quick to apply T10 BiS advice to every situation. this happens WAY too often around here and doesn't help anyone.
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Post by
Philll
don't be too quick to apply T10 BiS advice to every situation. this happens WAY too often around here and doesn't help anyone.
Well if you are indeed destro and still using GoLT you should sim and swap to imp.
Even if you are not BIS you may have a surprise.
Post by
asakawa
one of the major reasons for the swap to GoImp is the lack of spirit on T10. imps got a boost with ruin and emp imp but GoLT is still strong until you're in the best gear.
yes sim it.
yes find out for yourself.
no to reading BiS advice and applying to your fresh 80.
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