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Big honor changes for BG PVP
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Wildhorn
Those change are awesome!
It will help me to gear up all my alts. I have 11 lvl 80 >_<
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Mangea
Those change are awesome!
It will help me to gear up all my alts. I have 11 lvl 80 >_<
Kidding me? 1 from each class + 1 extra dk? Or just 11 druids... :)
Post by
Maulee
So what about people who are capped out on these "outdated" marks of honor for the purposes of doing turn ins? Are we going to be forced to spend them by a certain date?
I sort of get what they are trying to do here but I think they are really just missing the greater point and encouraging people to AFK even more. You don't get mark capped by losing games. It's going to be even easier for people to exploit this system than previously.
I really just think they either don't get it, or they do get it and don't really care.
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Wildhorn
@Mangea: 1 of each class and 1 extra DK (one horde, the other alliance). I also have 2-3 extra lvl 70s :)
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Wildhorn
So what about people who are capped out on these "outdated" marks of honor for the purposes of doing turn ins? Are we going to be forced to spend them by a certain date?
If you check how long the NPC for Horde/Alliance Commendation have been around (like 2 or 3 years?), you do not have to worry.
I sort of get what they are trying to do here but I think they are really just missing the greater point and encouraging people to AFK even more. You don't get mark capped by losing games. It's going to be even easier for people to exploit this system than previously.
I really just think they either don't get it, or they do get it and don't really care.
How are they encouraging people to afk?
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Wildhorn
Lastly, kind of hoped they would let you Q for this and your LFD at the same time.
That would be stupid. You are in middle of a BG or an instance, the other queue pop and you would leave the team, screwing up other people.
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Escutcheon
I like it. I've never been a fan of collecting marks for turn ins, being that you needed one of every type... and some BGs are just not played.
Zul'jin H BGs are pretty even, it seems being that I've pvped on either side. But for the Horde at night it's pretty much steam roll after steam roll from the Alliance. I like the idea of bonus honor for what is to be the random BG tool.
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Maulee
I sort of get what they are trying to do here but I think they are really just missing the greater point and encouraging people to AFK even more. You don't get mark capped by losing games. It's going to be even easier for people to exploit this system than previously.
I really just think they either don't get it, or they do get it and don't really care.
I don't c how this is encouraging AFKers. The problem does need to be solved. But ppl AFKed regardless of the marks. Free honor and marks is free honor and marks if the person is asleep, at work/school. or doing other stuff and not playing their toon and letting their bot do BGs.
Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "encouraged", since I shouldn't be speaking to their intent.
The point is, it certainly does nothing to discourage the practice. It's not exactly a secret that people who AFK in proximity to combat get more honor than people who spend more time in the graveyards as a result of trying to do something arguably useful. That's the issue.
I don't see what these changes are meant to accomplish other than to silence complaints that it's more efficient to LFD for PvP gear than it is to run BGs. Who really cares other than people with a penchant for semantics?
Post by
Erethzium
Guess I'd better run some more AV's to get Grand Marshall's Stave...unless they're gonna let us turn in our single BG marks for honor.
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Post by
Seejay
I know it's early days but 75k honour (they stated it was staying the same) for each PvP mount seems a bit.. easy perhaps. Especially with the increased honour rewards. But I guess we'll wait and see.
Other than that, I'm all for it actually. Initially I was worried that some Battlegrounds would become dead, but reading on the random BG finder seems to solve that :)
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Maulee
My
opinion
is, it's the same reasoning behind killing off twinks. I think the reasoning they give in this announcement is totally disingenuous. They say it's an outdated currency model. Well, who is responsible for that? They have no one to look to but themselves for any perceived irrelevance there. It's their game, they can do what they want.
The bottom line is, people were using it to circumvent the honor cap so they didn't have to be a perpetual slave to the game. That's the issue. They want you on a treadmill. Nerf this, buff that, ad nauseum. Same concept.
When I had my twink, I could sub up for a month, play a few games here and there, unsub, come back and still play without having to grind crap for 3 months in order to be somewhat effective. You can argue for or against that playstyle all you want but the beauty of it for me was being "done" with the grind. Some concept behind capping out marks.
So, with both of those things we have the "official" company announcements explaining their reasoning behind the change., which in my opinion, in both cases, are completely disingenuous because what they don't explicitly tell you is people were using both of those things to circumvent the grind. I don't want to have to play 24/7/365 to keep up with people who do, or the GM who can .createitem and steamroll an entire battlegroup. That's really the issue,
but they'll never come out and admit that
.
Post by
Tiara
Screw the marks. I don't do anything with mine because no one in my Battle Group does Isle of Conquest so I can't turn them in for more honor.
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