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Why do I defend Thrall so much? this is why
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Ok Adams you want to get technical about the details, thats fine. But you did push it.
- You've claim Sylvanas experimented on the alliance in the past, and even claimed those trapped in undercity are alliance. Have you any evidense to prove they are?
- I have presented enough reason behind why Varian would lead an army and kill every orc or horde member dead, on multiple threads. Call it specuation if you want, but when that thug of a king made the first move against the hordes noble leader, that tied any reasoning that could go against it.
- You yourself go out of your way to state how evil the forsaken are in what they do, but always overlook the reasoning behind it, meaning, much like a fan of varian would do, overlook the details of something in order to justify your opinion.
Christ.. I never thought I'd see it, it wasn't Darkton that derailed this thread this time, but you...
Post by
Orranis
And Sylvanas doesn't really listen to reason either... I mean she has a dreadlord as security ...That being said, I think she has slightly better reasons for not listening to reason than Varian... :P
But other than that, I've not taking sides in this little tiff.
Why? He saw his kingdom burned, was caught and forced to fight as a gladiator... he has every right.
I'm not supporting Varian in everything he does... but he does have reasons. Which Garrosh does not.
While we all agree on the Garrosh front, both had their kingdom burnt, and no matter how hard your life is I doubt it could compare to having your soul ripped from your body and tortured in ways physically impossible to comprehend.
Post by
Monday
Ok Adams you want to get technical about the details, thats fine. But you did push it.
- You've claim Sylvanas experimented on the alliance in the past, and even claimed those trapped in undercity are alliance. Have you any evidense to prove they are?
Captured Mountaineer... Only mountaineers are Ironforge.
Draenei in outlands, Alliance.
And When did Varian move against the "Horde's noble leader" are you talking about Garrosh? Varian has never attacked Thrall, only Garrosh.
Post by
Adamsm
- You've claim Sylvanas experimented on the alliance in the past, and even claimed those trapped in undercity are alliance. Have you any evidense to prove they are? Scarlets, survivors of Lordaeron, probably people from Hillsbrad.... doesn't matter where there from, but seeing as something Skree had in another thread; it's your own Faction she experimented on as well, otherwise they would have never known the Blight was effective on the orcs now would they.
- I have presented enough reason behind why Varian would lead an army and kill every orc or horde member dead, on multiple threads. Call it specuation if you want, but when
that thug of a king made the first move against the hordes noble leader
, that tied any reasoning that could go against it./sigh More of your Thrall love, that's all that is. Maybe if Varian had a heart of ice he wouldn't have cared that humans were dying or that his best friend had died at the Wrathgate. Seriously, the biggest reason you hate Varian is because he threatened Thrall, nothing more, nothing less. Bolded for importance because it ties into what I've said before; you have goggles on when it comes to Thrall.
- You yourself go out of your way to state how evil the forsaken are in what they do, but always overlook the reasoning behind it, meaning, much like a fan of varian would do, overlook the details of something in order to justify your opinion.So, because they were dealt a hard hand in life their are allowed to slaughter Alliance people and the living? Wow.... just wow. I hate the Forsaken for hte pure and simple fact they are a genocidal race, the Wrathgate proved that. Sure there are good ones, and those ones I wouldn't try to kill, but the rest, they can all burn in the pit.
Christ.. I never thought I'd see it, it wasn't Darkton that derailed this thread this time, but you...Yeah well, you've derailed plenty of threads, get off your horse.
Post by
taurenmoo812
While we all agree on the Garrosh front, both had their kingdom burnt, and no matter how hard your life is I doubt it could compare to having your soul ripped from your body and tortured in ways physically impossible to comprehend.
Must thank you for nudging this thread back on track face.
in regards to that yes, To any leader, Garrosh and his behavour has less supported reasoning behind it, well when you look at ones like Sylvanas, Thrall, Velen and even Mekkatorque, what happened to themselves and there people gives all reasoning to there actions for there peoples survival.
Garrosh, has never shown that kind of thought for his peoples survival. If he did, it would have been evident in Nagrand from the get go.
And When did Varian move against the "Horde's noble leader" are you talking about Garrosh? Varian has never attacked Thrall, only Garrosh.
Suddenly any opinion you have to contrary falls short with what you have to say Fun, at least in this regard.
Try playing battle for undercity from the horde side.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Bolded for importance because it ties into what I've said before; you have goggles on when it comes to Thrall.
And you look at nothing else in regards to Sylvanas's actions. Your not much different.
Post by
Monday
for his peoples survival. If he did, it would have been evident in Nagrand from the get go.
And When did Varian move against the "Horde's noble leader" are you talking about Garrosh? Varian has never attacked Thrall, only Garrosh.
Suddenly any opinion you have to contrary falls short with what you have to say Fun, at least in this regard.
Try playing battle for undercity from the horde side.
Ok, two things.
A. I forgot about the Battle for UC, you are correct.
B. What did you say before that? I am honestly having trouble understanding it. I'm not trying to insult I'm just wondering if you could clarify.
Post by
Adamsm
Bolded for importance because it ties into what I've said before; you have goggles on when it comes to Thrall.
And you look at nothing else in regards to Sylvanas's actions. Your not much different.
At least I look at facts and not just random opinions of things.
But, I will stop here. Your right at least that the thread is off topic now.
Post by
taurenmoo812
for his peoples survival. If he did, it would have been evident in Nagrand from the get go.
And When did Varian move against the "Horde's noble leader" are you talking about Garrosh? Varian has never attacked Thrall, only Garrosh.
Suddenly any opinion you have to contrary falls short with what you have to say Fun, at least in this regard.
Try playing battle for undercity from the horde side.
Ok, two things.
A. I forgot about the Battle for UC, you are correct.
B. What did you say before that? I am honestly having trouble understanding it. I'm not trying to insult I'm just wondering if you could clarify.
My point being well people like Sylvanas, Thrall, Mekkatorque, Velen and all other faction leaders have shown they care deeply for there peoples survival, Garrosh has shown he doesn't. If he did, he would have shown that in nagrand in protecting his people from being captured by the Ogres there. He's already shown he cares less for his own peoples survival and more about his own power or self pity, as he did there.
Post by
Rankkor
:S my god, what monstrosity have I created? all it takes is to mention the word "Sylvannas" in any thread just for comparison, or reference to completely derrail that thread from whatever it's original purpuse was to "forsaken should live/die" thread.
how about we get back on topic? (or move the forsaken discussion to some other place and let this specific thread get back on subject or die as all relevant talk about thrall seems to have come to a conclution?)
Post by
Orranis
:S my god, what monstrosity have I created? all it takes is to mention the word "Sylvannas" in any thread just for comparison, or reference to completely derrail that thread from whatever it's original purpuse was to "forsaken should live/die" thread.
how about we get back on topic? (or move the forsaken discussion to some other place and let this specific thread get back on subject or die as all relevant talk about thrall seems to have come to a conclution?)
Well, the whole point of your thread was a single statement, which we kind of finished. Be happy that the thread evolved instead.
Post by
Adamsm
how about we get back on topic? (or move the forsaken discussion to some other place and let this specific thread get back on subject or die as all relevant talk about thrall seems to have come to a conclution?)The original topic has been discussed to death, across multiple threads, so this one is beating a dead horse.
Post by
chaosis
sorry to continue on a dead thread but, a couple pages ago i wrote that hopefully thrall would become guardian of trisfal a couple days ago.
Well, seems the devs at blizz answered my prayers
http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/cataclysm-in-pc-gamer-uk-blue-posts/
a post from UK gamer magazine, and although none of this is completely confirmed by blizz, if memory serves me right, mmo-champion has hardly ever been wrong with speculation they put it out .
Post by
Adamsm
sorry to continue on a dead thread but, a couple pages ago i wrote that hopefully thrall would become guardian of trisfal a couple days ago.
Well, seems the devs at blizz answered my prayers
http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/cataclysm-in-pc-gamer-uk-blue-posts/
a post from UK gamer magazine, and although none of this is completely confirmed by blizz, if memory serves me right, mmo-champion has hardly ever been wrong with speculation they put it out .
/sigh Dude, that original information came off of Somethingawful.com, please read other threads before you start posting yet another rumour. It's not going to happen, it won't happen, it will never happen.Note #1 Important - The guys from PC Gamer were kind enough to give me a few more information on that.
The article is NOT officially endorsed by Blizzard and is mostly the result of their own work, that means that a small part of speculation is involved.
Just keep in mind that we're talking about people who interviewed developers in the past and who sell thousands of magazines each month. Bolded for importance.
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HiVolt
This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by
Patty
This is why we can't have nice things.
I want a pony!
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Morec0
This is why we can't have nice things.
I want a pony!
Ghostcrawler promised!
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Patty
Ghostcrawler promised!
Ghostcrawler
lied
! *eye twitch*
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