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Frustrated with the worthlessness of my paladin
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Post by
blademeld
I cant "own" in pvp with a holy spec.
Healing specs are meant for healing :P
I cant do an heroic cause i just cant keep up with everyone getting damaged like no tomorrow
blame the overaggroing DPS, you should only need to focus on the tank
If i spec prot, i am just an AoE tank. Anything outside an AoE scenario $%^&s the heck outta me.
it just means you need more gear/experience, I can single target tank without trouble
If i spec ret, i gotta grind pvp like no tomorrow again to get decent gear and then not be taken to anything else besides battlegrounds.
that's the biased view, ignore it, ret paladins can raid or arena decently
I'm really not whining here
just sounds like you need more experience
Post by
zoomie
if you ever want to see fun with a retribution ..
wait for patch 2.4.. and 2 weeks after that 2.4 patch, the season 4 items will appear, and you can buyout the MERCILESS SEASON 2 SET with your saved hard earned honor points...
and once your full merciless, with merciless 2hander, and stuff. you will be very dangerous...
especially with a beserker buff.. beserker buff (in wsg / AB / eots) seems to benefit paladins the most. because paladins can burst 3 -4 attacks in one second...
watch the ending of this youtube.com clip and you'll see what i mean...
beserker buff pwns..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5RSfC5WjBU
What is your source for the season 4 coming out? I want an official source, not just some stupid retard in another forum. Just because season 3 came out a few weeks after 2.3 doesn't mean season 4 will come out a few weeks after 2.4. T4 gear is on par with S1 for pvp, same with T5 and S2, and T6 and S3. So when season 4 comes out, then tier 7 should be out too, and I don't think anyone really expects to see that until the next expansion.
Unless you can give an official blizzard source that they are releasing season 4.
They might just be making a new season with no new gear but reseting everyones rating or some stupid thing like that, and making new battleground honor items.
Post by
blademeld
So when season 4 comes out, then tier 7 should be out too, and I don't think anyone really expects to see that until the next expansion.
Zoomie, I do agree that a source is needed for S4, but as for gear...
http://www.wowhead.com/?search=brutal+gladiator
it's on par with Sunwell gear
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blademeld
if you need to use it, you use it
like how I use LoH while tanking
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Post by
Lightrain
I haven't seen knives's healing video, but I have seen his ret video. I'm guessing he was playing a less coordinated team then his, and yes, you "can" heal well in 5v5. However, typically you will get cc'd to hell. That will go with pretty much any toon tho. If the other team doesn't have good cc, they will generally fail against pali healed teams. 2v2 and 3v3 favor pali heals in a lot of situations. However, playing with a MS war in 2v2, I had massive problems keeping up with healed teams. We could almost down them pretty much every round, but they always manage to squeeze out that saving heal.
The reason druid and priest healers are prefered is they have instant heals. So the only thing that works against that kind of heal is silence. This makes it very powerful because they can kite and heal at the same time. Druids being prefered for 2v2 and 3v3 due to their powerful cc abilities, and priests for 5v5 due to their CoH, PoM and Binding heal.
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Just watched Knives's vid with healing. You might also want to watch, he has a priest healer, and he is backing the priest up while the druids and ret palis are owning. Every toon in his team is multi tasking and off healing as well as dpsing. This is why he is so successful. Watch his buff bar, he gets renews and priest bubbles frequently.
Post by
xaratherus
would u use holy shock to heal?
For a long while I thought of Holy Shock as a purely offensive ability.
Then I remembered that it could heal too, and since then it's actually saved a group wipe by pulling the tank through by the skin of her teeth.
Pop a couple of +Heal trinkets, throw up Divine Illumination to cut the mana cost in half, and blow Divine Favor so that it's a guaranteed crit, and I'm sometimes hitting near 3k with this instant heal. On some mobs/bosses, that's the difference between having time to get off a Holy Light and the tank biting it.
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Post by
Lightrain
Yes, you need def/stam gear. As a pali tank, I prefered block rating over parry/dodge. Mainly because every block you do, whether it be a full block or not, does holy damage and increases your threat. You don't need to be hit to generate rage as a pali, which is a bonus, and every time you get healed, you get mana back, so int isn't as much of an issue. If you have major parry/dodge, you won't take as much damage in lower level instances and such, so you won't be getting healed, and you won't be blocking as often.
This is not the prefered for all, and not the ideal situation for a tank. This is my prefered for lower level instances. Stack your stam/def/block as much as possible. Any mitigation that comes with your gear is an added bonus. =)
Also, make sure, if you want to be a good tank, get PVE gear. Your pvp gear will be usable for tanking, but not for raid tanking. You need the def of 490 for raid tanking. This is given. Your resil rating for tanking would have to be massive, ranging 450+, and that, while being possible, will sacrifice gem slots and some gear and not give you any added block rating or mitigation. Heroic tanking can be done through PVP gear rather easily. This also makes it easier to use aoe dps when needed in heroics. So, if you have the PVP gear, run heroics, and some PVE where you can get your def rating gear count up. Get your badge gear from this, and you will be sitting pretty for kara tanking easily, and possible the next step past kara.
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Post by
Lightrain
From the words of blademeld
http://chicanery.fibergeek.com/2007/05/15/how-to-get-115k-hp-and-uncrushable-pre-kara/
This has been posted many times. Search thru blademeld's posts, he links a lot of pre raid tank gear.
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blademeld
Search thru blademeld's posts, he links a lot of pre raid tank gear.
I highly recommend against that :P
link your armory and I'll recommend gear according to your personal needs.
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