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Allaince really getting screwed..
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Post by
Adamsm
at best if Tirion hand't endorsed them he would had rejected their application to rejoin the horde and then evict them from orgrimmar to prevent a riot since the rest of the inhabitants hate the DK's......Well considering the original Forsaken Ambassadors were killed on sight, as they thought they were Scourge... could see the same thing with the DK's on Horde side. Again, I gave a reason why Varian reacted like he did, but you just see it as more of his 'irrational' hatred; but meh, whatever, not going to continue this line of discussion, will just end up in an argument neither side can really prove.
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92105
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Post by
Adamsm
And actually Rank, Thassarian went off more or less on his own, that's why his Sister sends you off to find him.
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566686
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Post by
Rankkor
What is the Allaince?
LOL; just now I noticed that he didn't spelled correctly the Alliance.
:D it seems the OP was right, the Allaince is getting screwed since they don't even exist xD.
Post by
Adamsm
What is the Allaince?
LOL; just now I noticed that he didn't spelled correctly the Alliance.
:D it seems the OP was right, the Allaince is getting screwed since they don't even exist xD.
Heh, aye, just caught the spelling mistake today.
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94855
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Post by
t2teddy
LOL after looking at the pics of the town of Andorhal in the Plaguelands, I declare that town to be WoW's new PvP Central!
O.o
Alliance town 30 feet away from their enemies on the exact opposite side of the road! LMAO
Post by
Monday
But of course, it could happen, you never know with a king like Varian...Varian didn't have a problem with the Death Knights; he only hates Forsaken and Orcs.
ohh really?
Where Kings Walk
Varian: you are merely alive because of my curiosity.....
Varian: you have mere moments to live.....
Varian: Were it not for this letter from Tirion, you would be a stain upon my floor. Only an endorsement from one of the greatest paladins to ever live could have ensured your survival.
and then as a reward he sends the DK's on imposible suicide missions like gee I dunno
assaulting a ziggurat and a necropolis with only 5 soldiers as backup
let's be real, he sent them there alone, without aid, to take out a massive target in the hopes that they would die....... only to have it backfire because thassarian was strong and skilled enough to survive what everyone else regarded as nothing more than a suicide mission. :P
quite diferent from Thrall's reaction to the DK's that rejoined the horde.........
Um... why shouldn't he kill you? You are a member of the Scourge sitting in his throne room. It's like a terrorist coming into the Whitehouse. He doesn't know you are good yet, all he sees is a soldier of the Scourge in his city.
Edit: And Varian personally gave him that mission right?
Post by
taurenmoo812
Um... why shouldn't he kill you? You are a member of the Scourge sitting in his throne room. It's like a terrorist coming into the Whitehouse. He doesn't know you are good yet, all he sees is a soldier of the Scourge in his city.
Edit: And Varian personally gave him that mission right?
you know I won't hold back from an oppotunity to take a stab at Varian here, but honestly, you and Adams seem to be overlooking the pure fact of the matter, that not only did be refer to the reformed deathknights as little more then scum, only due to Tirions word in letting them into the alliance, but he then set about a mission to see them wiped out in northrend.
It just seems like your finding it hard to see dirt on the alliances apparently spotless reputation.
(And before you tell me I do the same, your find I actually don't, I just don't like having people make my faction out to be the bad guys against the alliances so called shiny and bright demenor)
Post by
Monday
Um... why shouldn't he kill you? You are a member of the Scourge sitting in his throne room. It's like a terrorist coming into the Whitehouse. He doesn't know you are good yet, all he sees is a soldier of the Scourge in his city.
Edit: And Varian personally gave him that mission right?
you know I won't hold back from an oppotunity to take a stab at Varian here, but honestly, you and Adams seem to be overlooking the pure fact of the matter, that not only did be refer to the reformed deathknights as little more then scum, only due to Tirions word in letting them into the alliance, but he then set about a mission to see them wiped out in northrend.
It just seems like your finding it hard to see dirt on the alliances apparently spotless reputation.
(And before you tell me I do the same, your find I actually don't, I just don't like having people make my faction out to be the bad guys against the alliances so called shiny and bright demenor)
And I don't like it where you point the alliance out as corrupt scumbags.
But to the point, let me quote myself again...And Varian personally gave him that mission right?
And for the second point, I would call them scum as well, until they prove themselves. Once they proved themselves in ICC and the Ashen Verdict he wasn't calling them scum anymore. But right then, he Death Knights had just wiped out about 80% of the human population in the Eastern Plaguelands, including members of the Argent Dawn. Even if they were my enemies I would be pretty $%^&ed as well.
So all in all, yes you (as a Death Knight) were scum when you joined the Alliance.
Edit: Oh and you who say "Well Thrall reacted differently!" Think of it this way... Thrall is the most powerful Shaman on Azeroth. He isn't scared of you, so he can take the time to assess the situation more fully. Varian just has his swords can guards, so if you tried to kill him you might actually be able to, so he wants to eliminate the threat before it can hurt him.
Think on that.
Post by
taurenmoo812
In short your agreeing with Varians opinion of them that they are scum and should be wiped out so as not to tanish the alliances pretty image. Well thats good you cleared that up.
God knows how you think your survive having worgen..
Post by
Adamsm
Funden it's simple; Tauren is allowed to bad mouth and bash the Alliance all he wants because of his superiority complex, and we are just suppose to accept it and nod, while if we try to raise opposite points, we get shot down because we are Alliance Scumbug Supporters... now I know how Darkton feels, and I have to admit... I'm damn surprised I ever defended Tauren against him; as I've said, lately Tauren, you've made Dark look like he was doing good, kindly get off your horse and stop bashing my faction.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Funden it's simple; Tauren is allowed to bad mouth and bash the Alliance all he wants because of his superiority complex, and we are just suppose to accept it and nod, while if we try to raise opposite points, we get shot down because we are Alliance Scumbug Supporters... now I know how Darkton feels, and I have to admit... I'm damn surprised I ever defended Tauren against him; as I've said, lately Tauren, you've made Dark look like he was doing good, kindly get off your horse and stop bashing my faction.
I'll gladly feel so inclined to when you stop having that superiority demenor over mine against yours. I honestly thought you were more balanced, but lately from most posts you don't seem to mind drawing on the hordes faults and wiping the slate clean on your own.
Post by
Adamsm
Funden it's simple; Tauren is allowed to bad mouth and bash the Alliance all he wants because of his superiority complex, and we are just suppose to accept it and nod, while if we try to raise opposite points, we get shot down because we are Alliance Scumbug Supporters... now I know how Darkton feels, and I have to admit... I'm damn surprised I ever defended Tauren against him; as I've said, lately Tauren, you've made Dark look like he was doing good, kindly get off your horse and stop bashing my faction.
I'll gladly feel so inclined to when you stop having that superiority demenor over mine against yours. I honestly thought you were more balanced, but lately from most posts you don't seem to mind drawing on the hordes faults and wiping the slate clean on your own.
Because I have no choice; I like the Alliance, and watching you bash them in every f-ing post you make, even if it has nothing to do with them, is @#$%ing me off. I've never wiped the slate clean, I know there are corrupt aspects to the Alliance, the only one who seems to be hiding the corrupt side is you; if anyone says one bad thing about the Horde, you jump down their throat screaming and yelling they are wrong, and your right.
Yes, Varian can't control his mouth.... big deal, neither can Garrosh or Sylvanas. There are no perfect leaders in Warcraft, not even Velen, but just because you've got such a massive fan boy crush on Thrall, doesn't mean the leader of the Orcs created the World and we're all suppose to go down on our knees and lick his boots. Well sorry, but no, he's a good leader, but he's not a God. But hey, you don't like where they are taking World of Warcraft, go play Warcraft 3, then everything will always be perfect for you.
Post by
taurenmoo812
You've just come all guns blazing in your defending the alliance from what I say about them. This is good actully, it shows to me your not just hiding behind a neutral pov but actully are just as much a fanboy of your own faction as I am of mine.
The thing I've been is completely honest about that, so anything else besides I at least know where I stand with you now.
Post by
Adamsm
You've just come all guns blazing in your defending the alliance from what I say about them. This is good actully, it shows to me your not just hiding behind a neutral pov but actully are just as much a fanboy of your own faction as I am of mine.
The thing I've been is completely honest about that, so anything else besides I at least know where I stand with you now.
Or you've pushed me to the point where I'm more or less forced to defend my faction, as there aren't a lot of pure Alliance fans here.. or at least ones who won't speak up as they are afraid someone will bash their ideals.
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92105
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Post by
Adamsm
Aye... sorry; didn't mean to derail the thread this much; I'll stop now.
Post by
Denkou
Give it a rest you two. This is a whine thread about Horde favouritism, not a sparring ground for your little rivalry.
Agree to disagree or whatever it is people do to accept they annoy each other without having to say sorry.
^This.
Both factions have faults and flaws. No faction is perfect, no character is perfect,
nothing
is perfect. No faction is "better" than the other. Leave it at that.
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