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Will You Use RealID?
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524425
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Post by
Rilgon
Well screw me for not reading the FAQ myself, then. I still won't use it though. The "friends of friends" feature has more control over the information I reveal to others than I would prefer. The ability to turn off "friends of friends" is the ONLY thing that can convince me to use the system.
I agree with arkayn. Real ID sounds like a great feature and I'd love to take advantage of it, but I won't until they fix friends of friends.
Which is a shame because right now one of my buddies IRL plays on a different server and different faction, and it would be great to be able to chat in WoW.
It's your name.
It takes more effort to find my real name via Real ID Friends of Friends (3 clicks in-game) than it would to find my name via LinkedIn or the WHOIS info for my blog's domain.
Like, am I the only person who uses other social networks and gets how they work?
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618124
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Post by
Strafer
No.
Post by
524425
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Post by
Toldu
Yes, but only with RL friends and my GM. and that's only if they approve it, of course.
I wasn't fully aware of the lack of options regarding the friends-of-friends settings. Given that, I'm now restricting my Real ID friends to my wife and possibly no one else. It's not as much that I care that people I haven't specifically friended can see my real name (or possibly my registered email address; I'm not too clear on that yet); it's more the principle of the thing. Yes, I use social-networking sites, but I have most of my info restricted to friends-only and that's how I'd like all my info to be no matter where I put it.
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206732
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Post by
Rilgon
I didn't have room in that message to tell them how MONUMENTALLY STUPID it was to go live with this before adding even the most basic of parental controls. Safety third, always safety third.
What, you mean the ones that were already in place as soon as the servers started coming up that allowed you to disable all Real ID features on an account?
The ones that were enabled by default if your B.net account had ANY parental controls already enacted on it?
Jesus christ people need to research first and post second.
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206732
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Post by
Rilgon
You mean the FAQ that was written before the roll-out of Real ID and before the settings were enacted?
Blizzard has a glacial rate of revision on their online presence. Did it not occur to, y'know, check the parental controls page? :|
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329396
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524425
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Post by
Rilgon
1) It would be nice if you could pick a name instead of having to use your legal name.
You're only suppossed to enter into these partnerships with people who you already know by name. Your *gasp* real life friends.
2) Using your battle.net login name as the invite key is irresponsible.
You mean the email that is never seen again aside from the one time you give it to someone (or they give it to you)?
3) The friends-of-friends feature should be something you opt into.
Why? Every other network that behaves this way isn't.
Is that even possible with this system? I have no idea, can you unfriend someone easily?
right click -> remove friend
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331845
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Post by
seebs
3) The friends-of-friends feature should be something you opt into.
Why? Every other network that behaves this way isn't.
At the very least, though, they let you opt out. At least, Facebook does.
Yes, that's right, Blizzard's implementation here is worse than one bad enough to get people sued.
Post by
Rilgon
3) The friends-of-friends feature should be something you opt into.
Why? Every other network that behaves this way isn't.
At the very least, though, they let you opt out. At least, Facebook does.
Yes, that's right, Blizzard's implementation here is worse than one bad enough to get people sued.
because implementations of systems never change
ever
Plus, quite honestly, with as long as I've been using LinkedIn, I've got like... zero problem with second-degree connections being able to know my name. *shrug*
Post by
seebs
3) The friends-of-friends feature should be something you opt into.
Why? Every other network that behaves this way isn't.
At the very least, though, they let you opt out. At least, Facebook does.
Yes, that's right, Blizzard's implementation here is worse than one bad enough to get people sued.
because implementations of systems never change
ever
That they could change it later doesn't mean it's not, right now, worse than a system bad enough to generate lawsuits.
It also doesn't change the fact that literally thousands of people pointed out this flaw, and warned them about it. And they ignored all of that.
Plus, quite honestly, with as long as I've been using LinkedIn, I've got like... zero problem with second-degree connections being able to know my name. *shrug*
LinkedIn is very different from WoW. On LinkedIn, you are not being exposed to a few million teenagers who have serious emotional stability issues and a tendency to blinding rage over in-game drama.
Post by
Rilgon
I'm not exposing myself to that with Real ID either.
Because I'm
using the system how it was intended to be used.
Post by
Supremacy
No. There exist at least two people that I could plausibly use it with, who don't know each other. is an insultingly bad implementation
I don't mean to be a troll, but what on Earth are you hiding? You seem awfully adamant that these two people who don't know each other should positively under no circumstances ever be made aware of each other's existence. I understand the legal name and login ID complaints, but your aversion to friends-of-friends seems to go beyond reasonable sentiments to my mind.
I don't think it's trolling, at all. It's a valid question. I think, though, it doesn't boil down to "why shouldn't they know each other or that you know both of them" so much as "I would like to have some say in this matter".
I mean, if you Real ID your spouse, and they Real ID their sibling (who you can't stand), that's just already creating a point of contention. Some people just have friends/family who they don't share with each other. They don't need a reason for that. That's their decision.
The Friend of a Friend thing kind of takes that away. Especially when they say "This is only to be used with people you know and trust with your real name", and then say "Okay, now we're going to share your real name with them, and their friends." Friends of friends of friends are strangers. It's too easy to see this eventually becoming "Are you comfortable with Kevin Bacon knowing your real name?"
I don't
like
the fact that you have to use your legal name as opposed to a handle or alias, but I can deal with that. Same thing with the log-in information. That's the trusting a friend part. However, my trust for my friend does not extend to their friends. Or their friends, or their friends, etc. But my say in my privacy is being ignored.
It just seems like an unnecessary breach of privacy for no real gain. And making it mandatory?
Pass.
Post by
seebs
No. There exist at least two people that I could plausibly use it with, who don't know each other. is an insultingly bad implementation
I don't mean to be a troll, but what on Earth are you hiding?
Nothing.
You seem awfully adamant that these two people who don't know each other should positively under no circumstances ever be made aware of each other's existence.
No. I just think that they should have the
option
of whether they wish to be known only to me, or also to all of my friends.
I understand the legal name and login ID complaints, but your aversion to friends-of-friends seems to go beyond reasonable sentiments to my mind.
One of my friends is transgendered. I'd love to be friends with her in-game, but if I used Real ID, all of my friends would see her with a name which, to put it mildly, would raise questions. One of my friends has a crazy stalker. Actually, more than one. I have a friend who is the ex-wife of another friend, and his new wife plays WoW and we're friends. I would VERY much like to not have the ex-wife and the new-wife get exposed to each other in-game if I could avoid that.
I think a big part of this is that, just because of who I am and what I'm like, people tend to be a lot more open with me than they might be with other people. I know the real names of a lot of people who are, other than me,
very
private about who they are or what their lives are like.
Which means that I'm actually aware of the fact that they may not want to expose those details to everyone else. On Facebook, no problem, they friend me, they mark all the data they care about "Friends Only", and friends-of-friends see only the filtered public face. On WoW, if they friend me, the real name is part of what's shown to friends-of-friends, so it's unreasonable for me to use it.
I'm still trying to get accurate data about what exactly is shown, because different people have made different claims about it.
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