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This is just my speculation, but the reason why everyone has outrageous sounding talents is so when we hit up rated BGs, when 6 or more DPS switch to one target at the same time, he won't be wiped out of existence.
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depending on how much of a boost mana adept is going to be i can see some people going for
burning determination
in the fire tree for the regen, but it may not be enough to outweigh icy veins.
There's already a talent exactly like it in the Arcane Tree.
he's probably thinking about taking Meditation with the fire talent and Mage Armor for 9% MP5
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Drefanator
depending on how much of a boost mana adept is going to be i can see some people going for
burning determination
in the fire tree for the regen, but it may not be enough to outweigh icy veins.
There's already a talent exactly like it in the Arcane Tree.
he's probably thinking about taking Meditation with the fire talent and Mage Armor for 9% MP5
Good point. I couldn't imagine how great 9% mana every 5 seconds would be. You would have to miss out on a lot of other stuff though.
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#of00xuoMhVZ0Ef0scIcVzbhct
lets you have 8% mana regen with picking up the 10% more intellect, which is a near must have. You don't give up anything except for a bit of range. However Fire has enough range (most spells being 35 yards) that I'm sure you can sacrifice it for more int, or more mana regen.
Of course, this is 3 days into the beta, and everything will change by next week.
Also, someone go to the main WoW boards and suggest that they chain Playing with Fire to blastwave, and having something else chain to Combustion, cuz that's 3 points that we have to spend that's useless, just to pick up Combustion, which is pretty sweet.
Edit: Unless I didn't read far enough ahead and realize the discussion is about pvp. So in that case ignore that part.
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Drefanator
Alright, let's rebump this with some discussion on the new builds. My thoughs:
Frost PVE:
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=YOxJVeMh.9mn.mage
Frost looks pretty much like it should really.
Fire PVE:
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=uNffdL7B.9mn.mage
A lot of the talents seem closer to pvp talents than I'd like, but meh, it's what we're given so far. I don't like how they got rid of that Flame Orb talent that made it explode when reach its target. Hopefully they'll add it back or something.
Arcane PVE:
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=vAyqZMy4.9mn.mage
I wasn't sure what to put my last point in, either Burning Determination, Improved Polymorph or Improved Blink. I chose Improved Blink just because I like to use blink a lot, and it should help to get out of fire even better. Also, same with fire, it's a lot of pvp talents. Which I know they were trying to combine, but still... meh.
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Drefanator
A lot of the talents seem closer to pvp talents than I'd like, but meh, it's what we're given so far. I don't like how they got rid of that Flame Orb talent that made it explode when reach its target. Hopefully they'll add it back or something.
Check the Frost talents. "Frostfire Orb" refers to Flame Orb, so we can assume it's still in game.
Nah, it wasn't that Flame Orb was out. It's just that there was a talent on the old builds that would allow it to explode similar to Living Bomb. I'm thinking this may be just reduced to a Glyph. Which is fine by me in all honesty.
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=vm-KBY3VZ.9mn.mage
What I'd spec if this were final for fire.
@defranator:
I chose to go deeper in arcane for arcane potency as it works well with arcane concentration. A 10% chance to increase your crit for 15% on the next 2 casts.
Yeah, it would probably be better for both mana preservation and dps. Though, I'm not to sure that since we don't have the 50% mana regen talents any more, whether or not mana will be a problem again.
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UPDATE: I've been a bit late with this new update, but the talent trees have been completely redesigned, so all of the talent trees before around the 30 posts mark are pretty much meaningless, I will update the main post in a minute. (I haven't been watching this thread very much lately).
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Drefanator
I might try something like this:
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#ocbhbZZcrurszfdbo
although there is a floating point in Frost.
But who knows, will you need more haste or more crit later.
imo just put 1 point in improved blink. Apparently the 2nd point decreases the speed from 70% to 35% =P
Soooooooo......... yeah.
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