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Guide: How To Lead Pugs
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Tya1
While English is not my first language, I do speak it on professional level (living in another country then my own), but damn...I need a dictonairy for about half of it. Is this going to be your master thesis?
Hope not, because while I started out thinking this was serious, halfway I got to a point that made me laugh and think: ooh...it's just meant funny...and then I started doubting again. So...what IS the point of the post, because it's not really clear.
But, if you would follow your rules, you would sort of exclude well...everybody, except yourself I guess. ^^
Post by
Ippon
You never answered my original question. Are you female?
Judging by the number of people that took umbrage with the "fashion sense" section, myself included, it would probably make your guide more credible to remove it.
Post by
Squishalot
I dunno, I've no qualms with the fashion sense comments. In some respect, they're true - well itemised gear goes well, aesthetically. Poorly itemised gear tends to clash. People with multiple set pieces tend to look good. But if you show up with a mix of ilvl 245+ priest (spirit/spellpower), mage (haste) and caster plate (int), then I'm going to question whether you really know how to play your class properly.
Though I disagree with labelling generally, the archetypes do have a place in describing people online. That section's a good read, if only for amusement purposes. In general though, it's a fair point, but perhaps, not to everyone's style.
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Ippon
I dunno, I've no qualms with the fashion sense comments. In some respect, they're true - well itemised gear goes well, aesthetically. Poorly itemised gear tends to clash. People with multiple set pieces tend to look good. But if you show up with a mix of ilvl 245+ priest (spirit/spellpower), mage (haste) and caster plate (int), then I'm going to question whether you really know how to play your class properly.
Though I disagree with labelling generally, the archetypes do have a place in describing people online. That section's a good read, if only for amusement purposes. In general though, it's a fair point, but perhaps, not to everyone's style.
Except that BIS gear for pretty much every plate class contains non-plate which won't match. Also, gear from different tiers won't match even if it's the same armor type, and off-set pieces of the same tier may or may not have your class' models.
It's a completely worthless thing to look at. Some gear looks terrible. Some gear looks good. Neither of those things has anything whatsoever to do with how good the gear or the player wearing it is.
Post by
USMCDiablo
You should bold the lines about trinkets and tier pieces and some of the leadership information and just delete all the utter nonsense about stereotyping people. While the "trio" is mildly accurate, the friends aren't always bad. They can be annoying since they'll bandwagon people even if their friend is clearly out of place or wrong, but not all friends who play WoW together are bad. All the other ones are just utter nonsense for the most part. There's some minor things worth underlining, but if I start up a pug I'm not going to profile every person who whispers me to figure out what they're doing in life.
People who use a good ilvl 200-226 trinket, especially if it's from ulduar, are generally better players. Clearly they know what they're doing because they know which trinkets are better for their class. That's not to say people who have good trinkets are bad if they're still well itemized of course, but a caster using both the badge hit trinkets is almost always bad while somebody using Eye of the Broodmother is generally a lot better. Remember, they could have run the weekly and picked it up and just have nothing better yet.
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Post by
Asylu
After carefully reading this essay (and that is what it is) I have drawn several conclusions about both the "guide" and it's author.
1. You have issues with women and white lower income males which says to me that you have had some psychologically damaging trauma at the hands of such people, mostly likely from high school or college.
2. You focus on income/social level as a way to bracket players, and show a sizable distaste for those who are earning steady income by marginalizing fiscal/familial achievements thus telling an informed person that you are envious of those very things and feel the need to belittle them to place yourself above them.
3. You focus on the aesthetics of gear as a way to define player personalities, showing that you believe that
beauty equals worth
displaying your own insecurities for your physical form and lack of self-worth.
4. You are overly verbose in an
attempt to overwhelm
your audience with your "knowledge" without actual documented facts.
In conclusion your essay is merely a
well disguised attempt to waste the time of others for the sake of causing trouble
....the clear signs that you are desperate for attention.
And for those who will skim past this.
TL;DR: Quit trolling....
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Post by
Pwntiff
Setting standards actually makes this easier since skilled players who would normally be recalcitrant are more willing to come if they believe that undesirables will be excluded.
So you're saying that players who would normally baulk at authority would actually acquiesce if you exclude "undesirables"?
Post by
Squishalot
Except that BIS gear for pretty much every plate class contains non-plate which won't match. Also, gear from different tiers won't match even if it's the same armor type, and off-set pieces of the same tier may or may not have your class' models.
It's a completely worthless thing to look at. Some gear looks terrible. Some gear looks good. Neither of those things has anything whatsoever to do with how good the gear or the player wearing it is.
That's not true. Mixed tier gear (eg, 2pc T9 / T10) generally doesn't look that bad together. As for BiS gear, the only non-plate BiS gear for Paladins, for example, tend to be AP rings or weapons for Ret. Even the
BiS pre-raid list
only has a single leather item (belt), which is barely visible from an aesthetic point of view. Oh look, the
pre-raid BiS for Warriors
doesn't have any non-plate.
But more my point was that even caster gear of mixed armour type will look decent if they're itemised properly. Something with +Hit looks out of place on a Holy Priest or Holy Pally.
Even if gear looks terrible, it generally tends to go with similarly itemised gear. It's not about how it looks, but how it matches.
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Asylu
After carefully reading this essay (and that is what it is) I have drawn several conclusions about both the "guide" and it's author.
1. You have issues with women and white lower income males which says to me that you have had some psychologically damaging trauma at the hands of such people, mostly likely from high school or college.
2. You focus on income/social level as a way to bracket players, and show a sizable distaste for those who are earning steady income by marginalizing fiscal/familial achievements thus telling an informed person that you are envious of those very things and feel the need to belittle them to place yourself above them.
3. You focus on the aesthetics of gear as a way to define player personalities, showing that you believe that
beauty equals worth
displaying your own insecurities for your physical form and lack of self-worth.
4. You are overly verbose in an
attempt to overwhelm
your audience with your "knowledge" without actual documented facts.
In conclusion your essay is merely a
well disguised attempt to waste the time of others for the sake of causing trouble
....the clear signs that you are desperate for attention.
And for those who will skim past this.
TL;DR: Quit trolling....
What I stated here is my honest opinion and to write it off as trolling is nothing but what most cries of troll are, which is a copout from engaging a point of view in a rational way.
Also, isn't it hypocritical you respond to my inferences about people in real life by making equally unjustified - as you would claim - inferences in turn?
It seems odd that such a supposedly experienced raid leader such as yourself would fail to see what the nature of my reply was:
Satire
. You could also call it sarcasm or irony. But I see that it is lost on you. You make such assumptions about others in quite a vulgar display of intelligent bigotry, why can we not do the same?
Simply put, you are just a better class of troll than the poor souls who haunt trade chat, attempting dredge up a good "debate" that you manipulate into feeding you ego. Is it because your own life is as miserable as that of your degenerate archetype? Thus you have the overwhelming need to not only insult the readers of your "guide" but also to prove your intellectual superiority over them so as to fulfill some long held social grudge?
Your blatant attacks on women who play WoW as well as nearly 80% of the men have lead me to believe that you must be on of the Fat, Ugly Women that you have reviled or with the obsessive attention to appearances and the anger directed at forceful men a homosexual male that wishes to lash out at the people that have made you feel isolated.
I am not throwing insults, believe it or not, merely stating my own opinion of your essay. The fact that you felt the need to include such drivel as the archetypes is the showpiece of trolling intelligently. Not every troll has the need to scream offensive words in capitals, as you have amply proven.
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