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Post by
Squishalot
But hey, we get it; you have a fear of Muslim and Islamic groups, declaring them all as terrorists is easier then admitting that because they worship something different then you scares the crap out of you.
No, I have a fear of Comedy Central violating the right of free speech when they censor Muhammad, but they do not censor God, thus surrendering to terrorism.
Firstly, as they have freedom of speech, they have the right to censor whatever they want. The guys at South Park had the option of refusing to let them censor the episode and not have it screen at all, and they obviously didn't want to take that option.
Secondly, noone believes that portraying the image of God is offensive. Why do they censor private parts of people on TV? Because a not-insignificant group of people see it as offensive, freedom of speech or otherwise. Because a not-insignificant group of people see the portrayal of Muhammad as offensive, it gets censored too, done.
Post by
Honorus
percent f-ing honest, the chance of a devout Muslim watching South Park is slim to none.
There are about 8 million muslims in the US alone, and no sir, none would of course watch South Park or read the news or nothing amirite?
Post by
Adamsm
Once again, they showed god as a purple hippo.
Who the South Park people... your kidding right?
God as shown in South Park
.
Muhamad
from the Super Friends episode, nothing offensive there.
percent f-ing honest, the chance of a devout Muslim watching South Park is slim to none.
There are about 8 million muslims in the US alone, and no sir, none would of course watch South Park or read the news or nothing amirite?
I meant, the ones who would 'go all terrorist' on them; as in those who are in the Middle East. But hey, you have a firm belief about these people so yeah...
Edit again: I'd suggest you read those links I had there instead of nit picking everything and trying to prove your right.
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393249
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Post by
Honorus
Once again, they showed god as a purple hippo.
Who the South Park people... your kidding right?
God as shown in South Park
.
Muhamad
from the Super Friends episode, nothing offensive there.
Go watch the episode where satan consults god. It might be named "Probably" and if that is the case it's he sequal of "Does the handicapped go to hell?".
Post by
Adamsm
Once again, they showed god as a purple hippo.
Who the South Park people... your kidding right?
God as shown in South Park
.
Muhamad
from the Super Friends episode, nothing offensive there.
Go watch the episode where satan consults god. It might be named "Probably" and if that is the case it's he sequal of "Does the handicapped go to hell?".
You sir, have no idea what your talking about; Every single episode with Heaven and Hell in South Park have said over and over that the 'true' religion is the Mormons, and everyone else goes to Hell, but if Jimmy and Timmy were Mormons they would go to heaven too. But that image I linked, that's what God has looked like in South Park since the first showing.
Post by
Squishalot
Anyway, I'm off for the night. I'll look forward to your responses in the morning.
Post by
Adamsm
Also,
From the South Park Wiki
, that is the only image of God they ever use.
Edit:
Recap of Probably
.
Post by
Honorus
Also,
From the South Park Wiki
, that is the only image of God they ever use.
Edit:
Recap of Probably
.
You're trying to say that image of god ISNT offensive?
Post by
Honorus
Once again, they showed god as a purple hippo.
Who the South Park people... your kidding right?
God as shown in South Park
.
Muhamad
from the Super Friends episode, nothing offensive there.
Go watch the episode where satan consults god. It might be named "Probably" and if that is the case it's he sequal of "Does the handicapped go to hell?".
You sir, have no idea what your talking about; Every single episode with Heaven and Hell in South Park have said over and over that the 'true' religion is the Mormons, and everyone else goes to Hell, but if Jimmy and Timmy were Mormons they would go to heaven too. But that image I linked, that's what God has looked like in South Park since the first showing.
In my opinion, everything is okay to joke about. May it be politicians, religion, celebreties, nations, races or sex. And if you censor what muslim don't like, you should censor anything that a group of people might get upset about.
Post by
Adamsm
Also,
From the South Park Wiki
, that is the only image of God they ever use.
Edit:
Recap of Probably
.
You're trying to say that image of god ISNT offensive?
No it's not.... because it's from a show that lives on satire and taking shots at everything and everyone, no matter how dumb, smart, crazy, sane, whatever. If you think anything on South Park is meant to be serious, you've never watched a single episode and are just barking at the moon. But hey, South Park itself even admits that God might not be God:In "Imaginationland Episode III" God was mentioned as a imaginary character, which either leaves the conclusion that God is imaginary, or that he is believed to be imaginary by some. The creators of South Park don't care, and are not afraid of anyone who bad mouths the show, as they just think it's all funny. Parker and Stone have admitted a few times that they thrive on the 'Bad publicity is still publicity' idea, and all this just makes more people want to watch South Park.
In my opinion, everything is okay to joke about. May it be politicians, religion, celebreties, nations, races or sex. And if you censor what muslim don't like, you should censor anything that a group of people might get upset about.
So that's what this is about; you don't like the way they show God so you think that he should be censored just like Muhammad... and the truth comes out strawman.
Post by
Honorus
Also,
From the South Park Wiki
, that is the only image of God they ever use.
Edit:
Recap of Probably
.
You're trying to say that image of god ISNT offensive?
No it's not.... because it's from a show that lives on satire and taking shots at everything and everyone, no matter how dumb, smart, crazy, sane, whatever. If you think anything on South Park is meant to be serious, you've never watched a single episode and are just barking at the moon. But hey, South Park itself even admits that God might not be God:In "Imaginationland Episode III" God was mentioned as a imaginary character, which either leaves the conclusion that God is imaginary, or that he is believed to be imaginary by some. The creators of South Park don't care, and are not afraid of anyone who bad mouths the show, as they just think it's all funny. Parker and Stone have admitted a few times that they thrive on the 'Bad publicity is still publicity' idea, and all this just makes more people want to watch South Park.
You must see people get offended by stuff, but that is no reason to censor it. The muslims will just have to live with the fact that their prophet is being ridiculed, just as I will have to live with the fact that my god is being ridiculed. As I expressed earlier, I am pro- publishing anything and just think it's silly to censor Muhammad.
So that's what this is about; you don't like the way they show God so you think that he should be censored just like Muhammad... and the truth comes out strawman. And I thought you could read...
Post by
Adamsm
Dude your talking about a cartoon for adults, made by a pair of stoners that just happened to get famous. I love South Park, and always have; doesn't mean I agree with everything they show(like a live action showing of how a man's penis is turned into a vagina((night mare inducing that one is)) ), but your acting like every single Muslim/Islamic in the world was up in arms about the Muhammad image, which was shown during the time period when the ban on images went up... what did you really expect Comedy Central to do, show it? Of course not, they don't want to lose any advertisers from flack. They are a company, and money is rule number one to them, not being correct.
Post by
Honorus
Dude your talking about a cartoon for adults, made by a pair of stoners that just happened to get famous. I love South Park, and always have; doesn't mean I agree with everything they show(like a live action showing of how a man's penis is turned into a vagina((night mare inducing that one is)) ), but your acting like every single Muslim/Islamic in the world was up in arms about the Muhammad image, which was shown during the time period when the ban on images went up... what did you really expect Comedy Central to do, show it? Of course not, they don't want to lose any advertisers from flack. They are a company, and money is rule number one to them, not being correct.
First you state no muslims watch the show. Then you state that the economy would drastically be affected by such a scenario because muslims wouldn't watch it. Makes no sense.
Even Scrooge McDuck has a sense of ethics in business.
Post by
Adamsm
First you state no muslims watch the show.No, I said those who would blow things up (you know *shifty eyes* terrorists), probably don't watch the show, so the whole thing about worrying about Parker and Stone being killed was ridiculous, and if that was why Muhammad was censored.
Then you state that the economy would drastically be affected by such a scenario because muslims wouldn't watch it.Kindly read everything; I talked about the Ban on Muhammad images, which has existed for the last 5 years, so Comedy Central was following that. And I am sure there are advertisers who are Muslim and wouldn't take it kindly with what CC was doing by showing the image.
I'm not saying it was right.... but it's not that big of a deal; again, no different then all images of the Twin Towers being ripped out of pretty much every media after 9/11.
Makes no sense.
Even Scrooge McDuck has a sense of ethics in business.Yes... because a cartoon Disney duck is a real figure.....
Post by
85162
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Post by
Honorus
Terrorism, an act of violence involving attemptive murder of several people, often aimed at a certain sort of people, in a non-war zone and without a legally acceptable declaration of war or an admitted state of war. Use of explosives is common. Terrorism is oftenly used to scare a certain people into doing what the terrorists are hoping to achieve. An example of terrorism is for instance "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland during the 1990's where discrimination of protestants by catholics and vice versa was common in a great extent. Terrorism is often carried out by "terrorist organisations" such as Al-Qaeda, Irish Republican Army or Hamas. Terrorism can also be carried out by a federal army, such as in Myanmar a few years ago or in Eritrea where either the current government or earlier governments have been classified as terror regimes. This is my personal view and definition of
terrorism
. I hope my answer was of satisfaction.
Oh, hello, dictionary. Reminding people that they can't define words again, are we?
systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal
the act of being terrorized
the state of being terrorized
Which means that
any
use of something a tactic intended to scare people and use that to secure a surrender is terrorism.
"Shock and Awe" tactics are terrorism. There is not argument on this.
He asked for my definition. I gave my definition. Read the $%^&ing thread.
Post by
Malgayne
Careful. Keep it clean.
Post by
Honorus
Secondly, noone believes that portraying the image of God is offensive. Why do they censor private parts of people on TV? Because a not-insignificant group of people see it as offensive, freedom of speech or otherwise. Because a not-insignificant group of people see the portrayal of Muhammad as offensive, it gets censored too, done. You're honestly comparing genitalia to cartoon pictures when arguing whether it's right or not to give in for terror threats?
Post by
Honorus
Yes... because a cartoon Disney duck is a real figure.....
When you take what I wrote completely out of context, yes it sound silly. But maybe that's just because you earlier proved to have reading problems so I guess the ol' brain overheats when reading more than one sentence a minute, thus taking each sentence out of context.
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