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Post by
LoqueNahak
Not PvP related, but
I'll just leave this here
. :-) Looks fun to me.
Camo + Loquenahak
blue glowing eyes
= sad panda. It still looks "cool", no doubt on this. It's just... I don't see it fitting a level 85 spot. I would see it perfectly fine while leveling, instead.
Post by
Garenzo
Yeah, I agree with the level 85 part. It would help a lot while leveling...
Post by
HoleofArt
Yeah, I agree with the level 85 part. It would help a lot while leveling...
I consider this as your way of saying, "You were right, Camouflage is a terrible 85 ability, especially in comparison to others."
:)
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632573
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Post by
HoleofArt
The Hunters who don't do anything successful in this game are the ones happy with it.
The end-game raiders/smart Hunters are not.
See the trend here?
Hunters who are talented also learn to adapt, the ones who are incapable of adapting cry about the class being broken.
See the trend here?
If that's supposed to be directed at me, you're doing it wrong.
I'm not saying the class is broken, I'm just voicing my opinion about how pathetic Camouflage is.
There is no "adapting" involved.
My point still stands:
The Hunters who don't do anything successful in this game are the ones happy with it.
The end-game raiders/smart Hunters are not.
See the trend here?
Post by
Garenzo
Still wondering how you can call it pathetic in PvP... I mean, just elaborate please. Of course it's close to useless in PvE, so is Flare. It's a solo/PvP skill.
I consider this as your way of saying, "You were right, Camouflage is a terrible 85 ability, especially in comparison to others."
:)
I said it would be a useful skill for leveling, I didn't say it's a terrible level 85 ability and no, certainly not in comparision to others. You should see how much warriors are crying about Leap and that's more justified than Camouflage IMO. Smoke bomb is pretty similar to camouflage as well...
It's simple... you're not the only class who gets a PvP skill at 85, and if you don't like it you don't have to use it. You still get new skills at 81 and 83 as well mind you.
Post by
HoleofArt
How Camouflage is pathetic in PvP:
It's easily broken by any form of AoE (Cleaves, Channeled, Instant).
You're still seen.
How, exactly, does this help you gain anything in PvP? You get to open up with Aimed Shot. This doesn't really make a difference seeing as how if you're doing it right, you should be opening up first anyways.
A second Feign Death - type ability that drops their target.. on a longer CD.
You get to use traps? That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's definitely not a, "OMG this makes this ability amazing!"
Besides looking cool, you're still.. well.. seen. Added a second time for emphasis.
That's just off the top of my head.
Edit: It's simple... you're not the only class who gets a PvP skill at 85, and if you don't like it you don't have to use it. You still get new skills at 81 and 83 as well mind you.
I don't mind that it's a PvP ability - it's the fact that it's garbage.
And also: Trap Launcher is just a redo of Freezing Arrow (also garbage). The only thing that looks interesting in Venoms, which are essentially going to allow us to keep our DoT, while still doing something that provided utility. (i.e. Blizzard is redoing Stings)
Hunters are being remade, yes, but we aren't gaining anything with an "OMG" factor.
Edit 2: Okay, I am pretty excited about casting Steady Shots while moving. That's an "OMG" factor.
I concede. We get one cool ability.
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632573
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Post by
HoleofArt
Since when has complaining about an ability that I consider worthless come anywhere near "Hunters are broken"?
I may not be happy/agree with a lot of the changes, but that doesn't mean I consider the class itself broken. I'll continue to play my Hunter into Cataclysm, that I am sure of. How long just depends on how well I enjoy Focus and the changes revolving it. If it turns out I don't like the new play style, you're right, I might reroll.
But once again, adapting has nothing to do with this.
You either like it, or you don't. No reason to force yourself to play a class you're no longer happy with.*
* I mean the above statement as something in general, not necessarily pertaining to myself.
Post by
LoqueNahak
I stated this thread to share a Camouflage video, that's all. I am not complaining about the hunter class "in general". I am just a bit disappointed about this specific tool (Camo) because I play on a PvE server.
I was hoping for some utility for PvE too, that's all. I agree this is not the only useless tool for PvE (see
Flare
) but... being the last one we get at 85... a mixture of PvE/PvP would have been much more interesting to my eyes. Some damage, usable in combat... I don't know, but not just a "fancy" effect that will (almost) never be used in PvE (unless we gain it bfore level 85).
OT
I did not notice that Blizz gave me access to the beta (I discovered it while freezing my wow account lol...!). I am now testing the new hunter and man... it's VERY different... but a LOT. It will take some time to get used to it. he new Multi shot is nice but a true AoE was way better, honestly.
Post by
Lorkin
I did not notice that Blizz gave me access to the beta (I discovered it while freezing my wow account lol...!). I am now testing the new hunter and man... it's VERY different... but a LOT. It will take some time to get used to it. he new Multi shot is nice but a true AoE was way better, honestly.
Grats on beta. What's your experience with leveling? Is it just as quick/fast as with mana or did you have a lot of downtime? Any other first reactions with the changes that you noticed?
Post by
Rilgon
It's simple... you're not the only class who gets a PvP skill at 85
Death Knight - Dark Simulacrum: Works in both PVE and PVP (under normal Spell Reflect rules, and GC explicitly said they're going to let DS work on as much as they can)
Priest - Leap of Faith: Amazing utility in PVE and PVP
Warrior - Heroic Leap: Third charge ability, plus opening threat and a stun for Prot Warriors in PVE on AoE packs
Shaman - Spiritwalker's Grace: If you cannot see how casting while moving helps in PVE you're a *!@#ing idiot
Druid - Mysterious Mushroom: Pre-trapping bosses, damage while moving, etc.
Paladin - Guardian of Ancient Kings: you know what, I see a trend here
Rogue - Smoke Bomb: Mobile LoS for caster-heavy packs in 5-mans, plus other possible *!@#ery in raids
Mage - Time Warp: ...
Warlock - Demon Soul: An additional PVE cooldown, for a class with a bunch already
*gasp* What's this? Nine out of ten classes have moderate to strong PVE uses for their level 85 ability? And Hunters have basically none? SHOCK.
Edit: And people that say that Flare is useless in PVE never did Heroic Arcatraz, apparently.
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571648
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Post by
Rilgon
The funny thing is, there are no guilds with more than 10 people with the guild tag that's on your Wowhead Profiler version.
Soooooooooo...
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571648
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Post by
Lorkin
Time to collect gear for my Predator rp set.
What's the point? You're invisible!
Post by
Dragonzero
Did i hear QQ thread here?
Dude... Why don't u just quit play WoW for complain about Hunter's Camo?
It Blizz chose and not you
I'm just fine with that Camo for PvP and no need for PvE. Trap Launcher is ur PvE/PvP raiding because one of mine friend told me that he been done 5m instance beta on Cata and there was some major aoe dmg in the melee range. Ok, it help keep the hunter stand back then use trap launcher for CC or flame dps the trashs for prevent to get in the melee range to setup trap.
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