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tuckmuck203
I was on my level 68 feral druid in warsong gulch today, and a warrior grabbed the flag. I asked him to drop it, and he didn't answer. I asked him again, still no answer. Then after he went graveyard side, he said "no" and refused to elaborate. Then a boomkin comes along and pops starfall. I stunlock him in order to supress it's effect so MAYBE the warrior could at least get the cap.
He goes on without me, while I deal with the boomkin. Then he gets killed by a rogue and claims I abandoned him because he wouldn't drop the flag.
I had 1k more HP than he did, and I am a druid, so I am like the ultimate flag carrier.
I could understand if he thought he would die if he dropped it, or if he was a noob, but he said "im not sayin druids arent better fcs" after I gave him several reasons as to why we were. Then he told me I was a retard troll and says he doesn't feed trolls.
Why do people refuse to drop the flag for a CLEARLY superior flag carrier? I mean a WARRIOR got killed by a ROGUE. AFAIK warriors are rogues counter classes.
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I always love in any bracket when there's the twink x9 level Tank in there, and the lowbie x2 takes the flag when the Tank is right there..
And then they say something along the lines of "wtf u guys suck ffs l2p" when they get 3 shotted.
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I was on my level 68 feral druid in warsong gulch today, and a warrior grabbed the flag. I asked him to drop it, and he didn't answer. I asked him again, still no answer. Then after he went graveyard side, he said "no" and refused to elaborate. Then a boomkin comes along and pops starfall. I stunlock him in order to supress it's effect so MAYBE the warrior could at least get the cap.
He goes on without me, while I deal with the boomkin. Then he gets killed by a rogue and claims I abandoned him because he wouldn't drop the flag.
I had 1k more HP than he did, and I am a druid, so I am like the ultimate flag carrier.
I could understand if he thought he would die if he dropped it, or if he was a noob, but he said "im not sayin druids arent better fcs" after I gave him several reasons as to why we were. Then he told me I was a retard troll and says he doesn't feed trolls.
Why do people refuse to drop the flag for a CLEARLY superior flag carrier? I mean a WARRIOR got killed by a ROGUE. AFAIK warriors are rogues counter classes.
Why are you qqing about a bloody wsg... There are plenty of idiots and you'll encounter them literally EVERYWHERE in the game.
I don't even know why you're trying to cap the flag, just stay mid with like 2/3 people to gank with and you'll end the game with like top amount of kills :D i'm guessing that you're a wannabe twink here (or unless you were trying to get the ironman achievement i guess...)
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tuckmuck203
I was on my level 68 feral druid in warsong gulch today, and a warrior grabbed the flag. I asked him to drop it, and he didn't answer. I asked him again, still no answer. Then after he went graveyard side, he said "no" and refused to elaborate. Then a boomkin comes along and pops starfall. I stunlock him in order to supress it's effect so MAYBE the warrior could at least get the cap.
He goes on without me, while I deal with the boomkin. Then he gets killed by a rogue and claims I abandoned him because he wouldn't drop the flag. well you did, indeed, abandon him
you should have continued escorting him, or, since you are so obsessed with being the FC stayed close enough that you could catch the rebound once he died
I had 1k more HP than he did, and I am a druid, so I am like the ultimate flag carrier lowbie FCing is super serious
Why do people refuse to drop the flag for a CLEARLY superior flag carrier?seriously though, I don't see why this warranted a thread, is it even about this warriors pride? ...or is it about your own?
also:
I mean a WARRIOR got killed by a ROGUE. AFAIK warriors are rogues counter classes.BC =/= wrath
This was an example, I've seen people do it at 80 with geared, and pve greens people.
Also, I DIDN'T abandon him, I was keeping him alive. The druid had popped starfall, and if I hadn't kept the boomkin stuntlocked, then the guy would have died regardless because the boomkin's starfall +wrath+ treants would have just roflstomped him.
BC is a lot like wrath when you're in the 60's bracket, although I'm just basing this on logic, considering I only started playing in wotlk
EDIT:Also, pride was a suggestion as to what might be the answer here, as in, did the warrior have too much pride in himself? Such as maybe a god complex?
Post by
cloudp
Talk about overeaction. And this is on your side, Tuck.
I mean, he might have made a mistake taking the flag - or not, we weren't there, we can't tell; but to go as far as to call that a God Complex? I mean, I probably have taken impossible situation flags too. It happens. Sometimes, even if your focus is to win, you go with the flow and do a 1v1 during a BG in a far corner, even if it serves no purpose to the fight. Does that automatically make that person a bad player? Why so?
The Warrior having too much pride on himself? We don't know. We can't know that. It's possible that you're right, it's possible that you're not. He could, to his own judgement, think it was best if he took the flag. He could simply think the flag is about who gets there first. There are so many variables, we can't say anything conclusive without being utterly clueless or implying things that are false generalizations.
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tuckmuck203
Talk about overeaction. And this is on your side, Tuck.
I mean, he might have made a mistake taking the flag - or not, we weren't there, we can't tell; but to go as far as to call that a God Complex? I mean, I probably have taken impossible situation flags too. It happens. Sometimes, even if your focus is to win, you go with the flow and do a 1v1 during a BG in a far corner, even if it serves no purpose to the fight. Does that automatically make that person a bad player? Why so?
The Warrior having too much pride on himself? We don't know. We can't know that. It's possible that you're right, it's possible that you're not. He could, to his own judgement, think it was best if he took the flag. He could simply think the flag is about who gets there first. There are so many variables, we can't say anything conclusive without being utterly clueless or implying things that are false generalizations.
Lol after he had died, when I asked how come he didn't drop it when I asked him to, he said "there were horde comin" when the nearest horde was literally on the other side of the map. He grabbed the flag like 3 seconds before I got there, which was when I asked him to drop it. Doing a 1v1 on a far side of the map is different than seeing a better flag carrier right next to you, seeing no horde around, and refusing to drop it, then lie about it after dying.
I didn't let it ruin the game for me, I was having fun killing horde. It's not like I spent hours afterward fuming about it, I'm just curious as to why people do blatantly stupid things. They must have some emotional aspect involved in this, because logic dictates that he would drop it.
Even though we lost, it was a fun game, because I did pretty good.
Also, why do people feel the need to tell people that are arguing to "STFU"? It's not like I was standing in front of the efc typing, and yet, people think that because I type long messages that I'm about as good as an afker. I only type messages when I'm in the graveyard, or guarding. And if an enemy comes while I'm guarding I just press enter, kill the enemy or die trying, and continue what I was saying when I have a free moment.
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Tritoch
On that note, druid flag carriers are fun! Especially the tears of frustration from the eight people trying to kill the bear as he slowly, slooowly makes his way across the map. That was my first time healing in a BG, and boy was it enjoyable. Less so when people wise up to the fact you're wearing cloth and mail and you make things they want dead harder to kill. :<
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tuckmuck203
Maybe the warrior liked carrying the flag, and was having fun bro.
Not only is it a game, but it's a BG (In the level 60 bracket no less). What's seriously on the line there? You're the one with the god complex, so offended that someone else besides you would even dare to carry the flag.
What's seriously on the line is
A::Experience
B:Honor
C:Morale
If I'm pvping, it's because I like pvping, and I get experience for it now. I'm not out to level the fastest way possible, I'm out to level the fastest way possible while STILL HAVING FUN. Pvp is fun for me, so I level up that way.
Honor gems are how I make my money.
C:I'm not offended that someone besides me is carrying the flag. I'm not even offended at all. I'm bothered by the stupid reasoning he had behind it. If we had a healer with us, I'd gladly let him have it, so I could stealth. But it was just me and him, so if I can heal myself, run 40% faster, shift out of snares and roots, etc, where as the only thing he has going for him is a second and a half long stun, and plate, I'm obviously a better carrier.
It's not about who carries the flag, it's about who is BEST to carry the flag, and then purposely not dropping it for them.
We could have won, had he dropped it for me. I'm content with the loss though, because I went 11 and 3. which is pretty good in my book.
Edit: Also, what's fun about having the entire team come after you while you can't heal yourself, and there are no healers on our side.
Post by
Monday
Meh. I think this was overreacting on both parts.
A::Experience
B:Honor
C:Morale
Experience from one flag turn in (unless it was the game turn in) is negligible.
Honor is good, yet you say you use it for gems. That is waaaaay easier to get at 80.
Your morale is based on how you receive the game. If one flag turn in effects your moral...
C:I'm not offended that someone besides me is carrying the flag. I'm not even offended at all. I'm bothered by the stupid reasoning he had behind it. If we had a healer with us, I'd gladly let him have it, so I could stealth. But it was just me and him, so if I can heal myself, run 40% faster, shift out of snares and roots, etc, where as the only thing he has going for him is a second and a half long stun, and plate, I'm obviously a better carrier.
It's not about who carries the flag, it's about who is BEST to carry the flag, and then purposely not dropping it for them.
So what? If he wanted to carry the flag, let him. All power to him if he's having fun.
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tuckmuck203
Meh. I think this was overreacting on both parts.
A::Experience
B:Honor
C:Morale
Experience from one flag turn in (unless it was the game turn in) is negligible.
Honor is good, yet you say you use it for gems. That is waaaaay easier to get at 80.
Your morale is based on how you receive the game. If one flag turn in effects your moral...
C:I'm not offended that someone besides me is carrying the flag. I'm not even offended at all. I'm bothered by the stupid reasoning he had behind it. If we had a healer with us, I'd gladly let him have it, so I could stealth. But it was just me and him, so if I can heal myself, run 40% faster, shift out of snares and roots, etc, where as the only thing he has going for him is a second and a half long stun, and plate, I'm obviously a better carrier.
It's not about who carries the flag, it's about who is BEST to carry the flag, and then purposely not dropping it for them.
So what? If he wanted to carry the flag, let him. All power to him if he's having fun.
Actually it's not just one flag. I can count on one hand the times I've seen horde get the first cap, then alliance win the game. Like, literally, I've seen it happen three times in over 1500 warsong gulches played.
Post by
DavidIsaak
Guys, lay off bashing the OP.
No seriously, if you can't read and comprehend his view you should get off the forums, it's pretty easy.
Let me spell some things out for you. The OP didn't come here saying "Rawwrgrl what a noob carrier this guy was i'm superior wark wark". He encountered someone who went against what he thought was common sense so he found it interesting and came here to see what other people thought in a mature way.
Not only is it a game, but it's a BG (In the level 60 bracket no less). What's seriously on the line there? You're the one with the god complex, so offended that someone else besides you would even dare to carry the flag.
Stop being a twat, he's already explained that it didn't bother him. What part of "I didn't let it ruin the game for me, I was having fun killing horde. It's not like I spent hours afterward fuming about it." is it that you can't understand? Are you sitting there reading "It didn't bother me" and then think to yourself "He must have been bothered"?
Honor is good, yet you say you use it for gems. That is waaaaay easier to get at 80.
Try reading. If he's leveling then how will he enter 80 PvP? Gems for honor is just a bonus.
I'm beeing a tit because people are beeing stupid, don't wanna get called out? Then don't give people a reason to call you out in the first place.
As for the topic itself, personally i'd drop the flag because I enjoy escorting way more than carrying. But if I were to put myself in his mindset I would prolly be carrying it because I picked it up and want the sense of acomplishment from capping the flag myself. Sometimes i ignore the more capable carrier that spams for me to drop the flag because i hate entitled f***skulls that yabber on like twelveyearolds bashing their mum for a toy.
Post by
cloudp
Maybe he didn't think this, but a Druid is also a much superior supporter than a Warrior will EVER be. Warriors can't focus more than a target and require melee range. A druid is as much of a natural carrier as he is a natural assister. Why not root the druid and go help the warrior? He would be forced to powershift it, the warrior would outrange Wrath, and you could be by the warrior's side throwing heals at him, even if the druid wasn't dead, and support him against the rogue. You could even be lucky enough to find a druid that doesn't powershift.
Maybe the warrior didn't like being called out for that flag, and responded badly.
He can indeed come here for opinions, but with the facts presented so far, all we have is an obviously biased point of view and nothing more. I stand by my point - what is there to discuss? Do you know if the warrior would come here to post and write this kind of thread? Would his views be like this? Would he troll? Would he coherently answer? We haven't got enough information to reach a consensus, and no matter what the OP says, he has some level of bias. "Innocent until proven otherwise" applies here, and thus we cannot condemn the warrior.
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