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wolfeyoung
About the flying issue and such, Technically, it is possible, though very slow, to reach 80 without flying. That being said, it is possible to reach 80 without 60% mount either. All mounts are just a luxury.
Something else on the topic of this thread.
Involvement does not equal entitlement. Work equals entitlement. The more you work at something in life, the more you should get. Those that choose a low level of commitment to activities in life, rightfully so should only get as much as they give. Showing up at work doesn't mean you should get the all the promotions and raises. Anyone can show up. It's what is accomplished at the end of the day that matters.
If in a weeks time you only played basketball for 3 hours. Then you should only gain 3 hours worth of experience in basketball, not receive a million dollar contract with . . ..(If I cared for basketball, I'd have put in some top notch team here...but you guys get the point).
If in a weeks time, you only invested 3 hours into your children's life, then honestly, should you get more from them then you gave? What in life, whether a leisure activity or something life changing serious, requires low involvement but gives high rewards?
You get what you give, except in WoW apparently.
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Post by
Gnub
I'm pretty sure I meant to post in this thread yesterday ... but somehow, I must have forgotten it - or simply thought I had already posted the obligatory one which I'll do now:
Should we try and keep the discussion civil, and - just because someone has already stepped over the line - not continue down that line, and instead do our best to keep the discussion a good one? Otherwise, yeah... it's going for a lock very fast.
Post by
Pwntiff
I was wondering where Thunder Gnu was... >.>
What is the original topic of the thread again...oh yeah: General Thoughts and Opinions on WotLK.
Post by
xaratherus
Just so that people don't have to click back on the first page again :)
Now that WotLK is near the end, would you say that it was a success or a failure in comparison to TBC? Why? To what degree? Could it be rated on a sliding scale of success/failure? What has this expansion taught Blizzard? Do you foresee the Cata improving or declining?
Post by
wolfeyoung
You should focus more on quality, and not quantity. Some people get more done in 3 hours of play time a week than others do with 15 hours of play time a week. The prior should not get penalized because they don't put in "more" time.
But they're not being penalized. If a player puts in three hours of game time, then they get three hours of game reward. If a player puts in 40 hours of game time, then they get 40 hours of game reward.
Now, I don't think that this game should be horribly time consuming to the point of seeing even the first tier of raiding requires a minimum of 35 hours a week (and going farther required 40+), but neither do I feel that a minimum time spent deserves max reward. It's about balance and I don't feel the WotLK achieved that balance.
And as far as quality vs quantity goes, there is still a minimum amount of time required to achieve a worthwhile goal. If your goal is to compete in the Olympics, and all you do is train 3 hours a week, then it doesn't matter how much you accomplish in that time frame, it's still only 3 hours. If another person only accomplishes half as much as you per hour, but they spend 60 hours a week to your 3, who deserves to go to the Olympics? Who is better prepared for the Olympics?
In most situations there is a time requirement for success and quality only comes into play once that time requirement is met.
Post by
lonewarrior
See, this is a post. I responded to your previous post as such because it came across as whiny, not constructive or well-thought. Despite the formatting (which may just be a personal thing) this is the kind of thing I like to see on a forum. Comparing your previous posts with this one makes it seem like a completely different person.
The OP asked a pretty generic question. I didn't think anyone wanted to read a full page post from me, so I just posted a few short generic lines. I try to be as concise as possible for the sake of legibility. Maybe I was a little to short with my answer but if anyone ask, I will politely expand on what I post.
I'm pretty sure I meant to post in this thread yesterday ... but somehow, I must have forgotten it - or simply thought I had already posted the obligatory one which I'll do now:
Should we try and keep the discussion civil, and - just because someone has already stepped over the line - not continue down that line, and instead do our best to keep the discussion a good one? Otherwise, yeah... it's going for a lock very fast.
I know this was probably directed at me and I do apologize.
Post by
Adamsm
I wasn't much better; sorry Lone.
Post by
Varaconn
The OP asked a pretty generic question. I didn't think anyone wanted to read a full page post from me, so I just posted a few short generic lines. I try to be as concise as possible for the sake of legibility. Maybe I was a little to short with my answer but if anyone ask, I will politely expand on what I post.
Oh, I'm not referring to length.
Regardless, it's neither here nor there, so we'll just leave it.
OT: I enjoyed Wrath, but I'm looking forward to Cataclysm immensely.
Post by
irishsnout
Wrath was great but I cant compare it to TBC. Both had things that made each awesome and each suck. I dont play for end game progressive raiding, which is probably the biggest polarizing thing. TBC you had to rep farm for heroics which were not easy, to gear for raids. Then progress through those raids in order. LK you rep farmed in heroics and bought emblem gear for newest raids. So what's worse not seeing low level raids (LK), or not seeing harder raids (BC). Personally I thought the questing and zones were better in LK. Deathknights are a fun class. But really , its apples and oranges to me.
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93865
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Post by
Adamsm
Oh stop stirring ^&*! up already Aestu.
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93865
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Post by
Varaconn
In most situations there is a time requirement for success and quality only comes into play once that time requirement is met.
If he's clearing ICC - which has about the same number of bosses and amount of trash as Karazhan - then clearly the time requirement is met...and the only difference was that in TBC he didn't have the skill or initiative.
So the fact that he has the time to raid now means that he had the time to raid in BC? What other assumptions are we going to make today?
Post by
Adamsm
Oh stop stirring ^&*! up already Aestu.
God forbid we should discuss a topic critically. God forbid some of our assumptions should be challenged.
God forbid our opinions should evolve and change.
You don't discuss though, you ram your opinions and thoughts down everyone else throats and expect us to like you for it, when you don't back up anything... at all.
Post by
xaratherus
In most situations there is a time requirement for success and quality only comes into play once that time requirement is met.
If he's clearing ICC - which has about the same number of bosses and amount of trash as Karazhan - then clearly the time requirement is met...and the only difference was that in TBC he didn't have the skill or initiative.
So the fact that he has the time to raid now means that he had the time to raid in BC? What other assumptions are we going to make today?
Look who you're talking to, Varaconn.
I'm out of popcorn today, by the way. I brought a bucket of fried chicken, though.
Post by
Varaconn
In most situations there is a time requirement for success and quality only comes into play once that time requirement is met.
If he's clearing ICC - which has about the same number of bosses and amount of trash as Karazhan - then clearly the time requirement is met...and the only difference was that in TBC he didn't have the skill or initiative.
So the fact that he has the time to raid now means that he had the time to raid in BC? What other assumptions are we going to make today?
Look who you're talking to, Varaconn.
ಠ_ಠ
All too true.
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