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Post by
Heckler
C-Span also shows committee hearings (among other things), which don't necessarily deal with active or planned legislation. These hearings are sometimes (usually) put into action by the lobbyists themselves. Were I to venture a guess, I would assume that the NRA or some other similar group lobbied Congress to hold a hearing on Gun Control, wherein they continued to spread these lies (that have you all worked up) about legislation that doesn't exist and no one is pushing.
This serves the interests of the NRA, they can use the footage (which they created) in the hearing (which they asked for) to convince people (like you) that something is happening (when it isn't).
Again, I don't know what you saw for sure, and I don't think you do either. If you are
truly
worried about your rights,
get informed
-- your posts so far have revealed a level of ignorance on this topic that prove you are not serious in your concerns. If I'm wrong, prove it.
Post by
Laihendi
I knew this was going to be a bad thread.
Post by
Septimus
I knew this was going to be a bad thread.
I saw that you had posted and knew it was going to be interesting...
Post by
1515
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Post by
Skreeran
Meh, I was going to reply (opposed to stricter gun control myself), but it feels like my side has already lost this thread. If there's no
real
bill in the works to ban guns, then there's not really any point for me to discuss it here.
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374287
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90137
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Post by
Asylu
People have been talking about banning all forms of firearms from citizens for years now, we are closer than ever to having it happened, but it hasn't happened yet. It seems a bit silly to take guns from people who are not committing crimes to prevent crimes from happening...Kinda like killing your puppy because wolves attack cattle. It makes no real sense.
But it's hard to subdue a populace that has access to firearms, our forefathers recognized this, thus the right to bear arms was place pretty d*mn close to the top of the heap. If you can't speak your mind or use a gun to defend yourself you are helpless. Now other countries have severely restricted. citizens from owning personal firearms (with the exception of hunter rifles)
and it doesn't seem to work.
Criminals will have guns, no matter what. I could go out of my house right now and have and unregistered gun in a matter of hours, and I live in a rather small town with little actual crime.
What more can be said, it has worked in other countries. But those countries do not have the same crime problems that the United States does. Most people have forgotten the adage, 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people'. Look up how many people died from guns just randomly shooting them for no reason it the last year
it's not that many.
And that's taking into account that there is someone else holding the gun. A handgun sitting on a shelf doesn't just decide to fire and kill someone, improper handling can make it do so. America doesn't need stricter gun control, it needs firearm safety classes taught in school.
edited for spelling...darn it.
Post by
Adamsm
7, Police still can refuse to assist if they feel there is a liability or they fear for personal safety. So what do I do when they refuse to stop the man with a gun to my family. (remember still no more plan to take guns from criminals.)......Your full of it: Police, as part of their job, will always get between a civilian and a criminal. Yes, they won't shoot first, as they want to try to talk the criminal down, but if it doesn't work they will shoot him dead to protect the others. Your entire argument here is flawed massively, and it's entirely possible your trolling.
You've also received evidence here from other posters that your particular view isn't correct.
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184848
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Post by
Firallon
America doesn't need stricter gun control, it needs firearm safety classes taught in school.
Asylu, you made me smile. Thank you for for some cheery words.
Post by
Patty
America doesn't need stricter gun control, it needs firearm safety classes taught in school.
That sounds ludicrous to me.
Also, I heard Austria's landlocked. Might be a myth, but y'know.
Post by
Asylu
America doesn't need stricter gun control, it needs firearm safety classes taught in school.
That sounds ludicrous to me.
Also, I heard Austria's landlocked. Might be a myth, but y'know.
What does Austria being landlocked have to do with firearm safety?
Do you even know what a firearm safety class for children looks like? I do, as my father had myself and my two siblings attend one after purchasing a hunting rifle when we were small. They do not shoow kids how to shoot guns but rather demonstrate what a gun can do if fired. When a group of 8-12 year-olds see what happens to a watermelon wearing a baseball cap with a face drawn on it when shot by a .22 they tend to respect a gun for what it is: a dangerous weapon.
Once more I state, taking guns from law abiding citizens does not take them from criminals. You could destroy every registered firearm in the country and there would be just as many, if not more, fatal gun deaths as now. I am not saying that guns act as a deterrent for crime, but they are a right granted to us to preserve our liberty in the face of any form of governmental tyrrany.
Post by
120504
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Post by
Patty
What does Austria being landlocked have to do with firearm safety? The second part wasn't specific to your post.
Do you even know what a firearm safety class for children looks like?No, because as I stated earlier, I don't live in the US. Personally, I find it rather ludicrous that a child would learn about the danger of firearms before they can do their times tables.
Post by
HiVolt
...I am not saying that guns act as a deterrent for crime, but they are a right granted to us to preserve our liberty in the face of any form of governmental tyrrany.
Am I the only one who finds this statement paradoxical? Of all the arguments for gun ownership and/or interpretations of the 2nd Amendment, I have never ever heard this before, well, not outside of fringe paramilitary militias who think the government is out to get them and fear of the new world order.
Actually, I've heard it many times and as I understand this is largely the reason that the 2nd Amendment was included into the U.S. Constitution in the first place.
I don't think it sounds like a fringe idea at all, when given context. The first 10 Amendments were written just after the U.S. had liberated themselves from (perceived) tyranny. When you understand the 2nd Amendment in context, it makes sense.
Post by
Monday
Meh, I was going to reply (opposed to stricter gun control myself), but it feels like my side has already lost this thread. If there's no
real
bill in the works to ban guns, then there's not really any point for me to discuss it here.
For once, me and Skree agree on something outside of L&RP =P
I do like firearms, and I like using them.
it's always seemed a bit backwards that people get guns because they're afraid of being shot by others.
I don't, and nobody I knows, thinks this way.
I'm honestly curious to whether anybody does.
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184848
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Post by
Haxzor
I'm unsure which 1st world countries have gun related crime rates higher than America
Post by
HiVolt
I'm unsure which 1st world countries have gun related crime rates higher than America
According to
this
list, there aren't any, but given the dates listed in the table, I'm not certain as to the accuracy of the list. Unless South Africa is considered 1st world. Not trying to be bigoted, just stating that I do not know or care about the economic state of South Africa (or any of the other countries above the US on the list).
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