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Hunters: Master of None AKA "The Cynical View on Hunter Utility"
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Interest
If you're going to create a "QQ" post... this is how you do it. Back your issues with facts and figures. I hate when people say "if you don't like it, roll another class". I've given them all a shot, and for me personally, nothing compares to being a hunter. You pretty much covered all the hunter issues I have, lets see what the future brings.
I'm hoping something happens within a few weeks. Can't expect immediate action.
Until then, I'm off collecting rare pets. At 4/6 Spirit Beasts and so on. Also going to work on an extensive "history of Hunters" thread.
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683852
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Interest
I got my Shiranui (Karoma) just 20 minutes ago! *happy hunter*
It's the only Spirit Beast I got, and the only one I want. Now running around in Orgrimmar, showing off a still fairly rare pet on my server, trigging everyone's NPCScan :D
Really was just pure luck. Decided to complete the rest of the quests in Twilight, and when I was done I thought I'd just check the spawn locations, and there he was :)
NPCScan is zone/continent specific. You won't be able to trigger Karoma in Kalimdor.
I've been doing that with Terrorpene though =DD.
I want that Spirit Beast...also want Gondria really bad.
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683852
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Interest
Well, while it won't trigger, people will still have to clear their cache :p
Lol, that depends.
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Interest
Pushing this up. I updated with .4.0.6 changes that otherwise put my original post out of date.
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791416
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Interest
In your version of Kill shot, combined with the new MM tree, it would be THE most overpowered attack in the game IMO. If a hunter manages to get a KS on you at 25% your 99.99% guaranteed death unless you have a heavy defensive CD ready (Bubble, healthstone, etc.). When glyphed, thats on average a 25k crit, a 4.5k DOT, and a 70% slow WITH all the current damage being pumped into you. Also, if that didnt get you killed, there's another one waiting to do so.
It just seemed like you took the term "KILL shot" a bit too literally.
I may consider reducing the damage a bit and changing Shackle Shot as a talent.
The intention was to make it cut through plate with equal strength as a cloth-user. The old version of Kill Shot destroyed casters and did virtually nothing to armored targets (Wrath version).
Warrior Execute could probably use similar treatment.
Also, 25k crit counting resil? I doubt that highly. Keep in mind I changed the glyph on purpose in order to prevent cheap ass double Kill Shots that ignore armor too.
Yeah. My friend has 40% damage reduction from Resil. Probably going to just change Shackle Shot then.
Post by
CircusofValues
Our utility is a bit strained and weird right now, but it's nowhere near as bad as you say for PvE (can't comment on PvP because I'm not a pvper). Traps are easy to lay down provided that no one's stupid and pulls a group before you can lay it, last as long as pretty much any other CC (glyphed sap excluded) and once the trap is laid it's easy to keep going provided that people don't hit it (which applies to any CC anyways).
Plus I find that for my shortcomings in group utility/buffs I more than make up for in DPS. I'm not amazingly geared, 349 avg ilvl, and 9 times out of 10 I pull the highest DPS in heroic groups, and amd always within the top 3/5 in 10 and 25 mans respectively.
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Interest
Our utility is a bit strained and weird right now, but it's nowhere near as bad as you say for PvE (can't comment on PvP because I'm not a pvper). Traps are easy to lay down provided that no one's stupid and pulls a group before you can lay it, last as long as pretty much any other CC (glyphed sap excluded) and once the trap is laid it's easy to keep going provided that people don't hit it (which applies to any CC anyways).
Plus I find that for my shortcomings in group utility/buffs I more than make up for in DPS. I'm not amazingly geared, 349 avg ilvl, and 9 times out of 10 I pull the highest DPS in heroic groups, and amd always within the top 3/5 in 10 and 25 mans respectively.
Yeah, it's not quite as bad in PvE (it can crop up if you have to CC multiple times mid-fight or something like that). This is primarily in PvP, where a player will be under pressure and so on.
Also, making up for shortcomings with DPS isn't really the best excuse for having poor utility or even poor survivability. Keep in mind that in the ideal (or perhaps not-so-ideal) world people will be doing roughly similar dps based on a combination of their skill and gear.
Post by
PERRO
best post ever. like i dont think anyone can explain better whats going on with hunters atm.
PROPS TO THE OP. now do this on their forums plz.
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Interest
best post ever. like i dont think anyone can explain better whats going on with hunters atm.
PROPS TO THE OP. now do this on their forums plz.
I've already linked it 20 thousand times on the Official forums.
Post by
xenoblad
Wow,
what's even more funny then the orginal post, is all the people taking offense to it.
I thought I was guillable but even I saw the sarcasm in that.
I suppose not the many posters were aware of the "a cycnic's guide to X" series or the "Devil's dictionary" series.
I can't comment on Interest's skill as a hunter but he seems to love them enough to document their entire history in another thread, so he's probably pretty decent at the class.
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Interest
Wow,
what's even more funny then the orginal post, is all the people taking offense to it.
I thought I was guillable but even I saw the sarcasm in that.
I suppose not the many posters were aware of the "a cycnic's guide to X" series or the "Devil's dictionary" series.
I can't comment on Interest's skill as a hunter but he seems to love them enough to document their entire history in another thread, so he's probably pretty decent at the class.
Eh. I'm alright. Just lacking in the gear department...
And actually, some of it wasn't sarcasm. I was actually trying to make a point lol.
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