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Post by
tuckmuck203
Monjaru and Astygia aren't exactly my drinking buddies, if we're in agreement you might need to reconsider what you're saying.
Also of note, changing who's favorite alliance is mid thread is basically an admission of defeat. If you imply Alliance is blizzard's favorite and then go with something like
You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oops-my-bad
Second definition there.
Edit: Finishing sentences is gud. If you go with something like the above, you're basically telling Monj over there he's right.
I didn't say that it was favoritism on blizzard's part at all in this thread, e.g. I didn't change my mind.
You're misunderstanding me.
I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this
, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.
Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
Also, misleading title is misleading. Saying that you've "proven" favoritism for one side or the other implies the first definition. I did go back and notice that you didn't mention Blizzard specifically in your post, however, you're heavily implying by the tone and content of your post that you meant the first definition.
Obviously, I could be wrong, but that's what it comes across as. But, if you really wanted to "prove" the second definition, you could just show us some statistics that say lots of people are switching to Alliance (which you obviously need to wait until next patch to do). As you made this thread before the patch went live, I'm inclined to believe you're retreating to the second definition to avoid my points.
If I'm off-base here, please feel free to fill me in on your logic behind the creation of this thread.
It may have come across wrong, I'll admit. However, I'd like you to prove that there won't be faction hoppers and FotM crowds. In my oppinion, it's like ghosts. It can't be proven either way, but most people don't believe it. I don't believe in ghosts myself, though. Just thought while I made that comparison I should have settled that.
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Post by
tuckmuck203
While I don't particularly think the OP is correct (though it seems Blizzard tends to buff one faction at a time too often) I will say this...
I have never understood why in AV, not only do Horde have to get across a very easily turtled bridge, but also have to kill five million stupid NPCs in the Alliance camp before they can occupy it, all while being peppered with arrows, as opposed to the Horde camp, where Alliance can ride in completely unmolested and enter the general's chamber.
In my oppinion it's because blizzard doesn't think it's such a big deal. I don't think it is either. I'm horde and I win roughly 80% of my alterac valleys. Plus, I saw a druid with 4 billion healing a couple days ago in AV. He was teh only healer on horde in there, and I'm fairly certain he was in pretty much BiS pve gear to attain such high numbers.
Post by
Monjaru
In my oppinion it's because blizzard doesn't think it's such a big deal. I don't think it is either. I'm horde and I win roughly 80% of my alterac valleys.
Yet you think having to jump over a stream rather than just running to a specific area
is
? You're quite strange in your list of priorities there, sir. :|
It may have come across wrong, I'll admit.
That's an incredible understatement. And apparently my post came across the wrong way as well. It was supposed to be a probing, skeptical way of saying, "You're lying."
Just to clarify.
However, I'd like you to prove that there won't be faction hoppers and FotM crowds.
I don't have to. You're making the claim, the burden of proof is on you. Regardless, you have no way to prove such a claim either way.
Even if the patch
were
live and you gave us stats saying that a bunch of people swapped over to Alliance for the new patch, you have no basis to make a correlation between the new patch and the people who swapped. No way to definitively say that they were all (or even most, for that matter) were "Flavor of the Month" crowd. And even if they were FotM crowd, no way to say that they swapped for that reason alone, as opposed to switching for friends, or some other similar reasoning.
In my oppinion, it's like ghosts. It can't be proven either way,
Then what made you think it was a good idea to make the claim 3 posts up? You're not even making sense now. You say that you know all the FotM crowd will be swapping because the Alliance racials will be OP, and then liken the situation to ghosts and can't be proven either way? You're contradicting yourself. Badly.
I don't believe in ghosts myself, though. Just thought while I made that comparison I should have settled that.
Thanks for the insight into your beliefs regarding the supernatural? Because it's obviously relevant to the discussion or in my interest to know.
I'm honestly sorry if I come across as harsh here (I know I am), but you're really giving me no legitimate reason to take you or the things you say seriously.
Post by
tuckmuck203
In my oppinion it's because blizzard doesn't think it's such a big deal. I don't think it is either. I'm horde and I win roughly 80% of my alterac valleys.
Yet you think having to jump over a stream rather than just running to a specific area
is
? You're quite strange in your list of priorities there, sir. :|
It may have come across wrong, I'll admit.
That's an incredible understatement. And apparently my post came across the wrong way as well. It was supposed to be a probing, skeptical way of saying, "You're lying."
Just to clarify.
However, I'd like you to prove that there won't be faction hoppers and FotM crowds.
I don't have to. You're making the claim, the burden of proof is on you. Regardless, you have no way to prove such a claim either way.
Even if the patch
were
live and you gave us stats saying that a bunch of people swapped over to Alliance for the new patch, you have no basis to make a correlation between the new patch and the people who swapped. No way to definitively say that they were all (or even most, for that matter) were "Flavor of the Month" crowd. And even if they were FotM crowd, no way to say that they swapped for that reason alone, as opposed to switching for friends, or some other similar reasoning.
In my oppinion, it's like ghosts. It can't be proven either way,
Then what made you think it was a good idea to make the claim 3 posts up? You're not even making sense now. You say that you know all the FotM crowd will be swapping because the Alliance racials will be OP, and then liken the situation to ghosts and can't be proven either way? You're contradicting yourself. Badly.
I don't believe in ghosts myself, though. Just thought while I made that comparison I should have settled that.
Thanks for the insight into your beliefs regarding the supernatural? Because it's obviously relevant to the discussion or in my interest to know.
I'm honestly sorry if I come across as harsh here (I know I am), but you're really giving me no legitimate reason to take you or the things you say seriously.
Coming across as harsh (Sounding like a $%^& is the layman's term equivalent.) is one thing when you're definitively proven right. It's quite another when you're not.
I never made this thread to be a definitive source of truth, I made it to ask people's oppinions on it and why they think that. Now you're personally attacking me, ad hominem style which seems to happen in every contraversial thread in the pvp forums.
In response to your first rebuttal:
A: I wasn't talking to you, and that makes this ad hominem argument even weaker.
B: In response ot the actual claim of questionable priorities, the situation is completely different. I lose most of my gilneas' and alliance have the advantage. Threfore it's not fair. In AV, alliance have the advantage and we perservere through and win it regardless. It's one thing for alliance ot be so bad they lose when they have the advantage in AV, it's quite another for alliance to win mostly because of a gimmick. The gimmick being that they can move between bases faster, and therefor defend and capture easier.
Second rebuttal doesn't deserve or require a response.
Third: Once again, you're confusing my stake of this being a suggestion with my claiming this is the truth, which I'm not. The thread title had to grab people, and so that's what first came to mind when I tried to think of an attention getting title. My point here is to figure out whether there's the possibility of truth in this thread, by way of debating. The difference is that I'm trying to prove that this might be true, not that it is.
I can't wait for you to point out "OMG BUT YOU SAID THA TIT WAS PROVEN IN THE THREAD TITLE". Yes, I realize this. I also realize that I pu ta disclaimer in the first sentence of the thread saying that I'm a bad writer, and that was the first title that came to mind. The first title that came to mind isn't in the original post, by the way, that part is about 3 inches upwards of where you're looking depending on how big your screen is.
By the way, just because I haven't been writing in a hypothetical tense doesn't mean that I wasn't speaking hypothetically. It's more difficult (takes a %^&*ton more time) to write in a hypothetical tense than in a factual one. To exclude all doubt from here on in, my point of this thread is to prove that it MIGHT be possible that blizzard is buffing the alliance too much, and that BfG is slighting horde.
Oh, and the last quote where you're talking about my little aside? Yeah. That does apply. You're attacking me ad hominem (Google it.) and therefore, I felt the need to justify myself so that you didn't say "OMG you believe in ghosts? Go put your tinfoil hat back on and watch fox news!"
Post by
cloudp
...ad hominem
No, you should be googling it.
Ad hominem is a fallacy, a misjudgement in argumentation (May be intentional or not). In short, your arguments are rendered invalid based on who you are (example, because you are <insert nationality>, your oppinions do not count).
"In my oppinion it's because blizzard doesn't think it's such a big deal. I don't think it is either. I'm horde and I win roughly 80% of my alterac valleys."
"Yet you think having to jump over a stream rather than just running to a specific area is? You're quite strange in your list of priorities there, sir. :|"
You yourself said jumping over a stream is harder than running. Monjaru questioned the logic behind it, since you seem to see the AV thing as "not a big deal". That's not ad hominem, it's questioning your logic. Quite a fair point, and you answered it now... Wanna know the irony?
With ad hominem.
"I lose most of my gilneas' and alliance have the advantage. Threfore it's not fair."
That is what ad hominem actually IS, and a false generalization fallacy thrown in as well.
Last question you point as ad hominem? You dodged his point. Completelly. It's not ad hominem. You should really google it yourself before asking people to.
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Monjaru
Edit: Meh, on second thought, cloudp said everything I could have said and more in a far better fashion than I could. I'll just let you mull over what he said for a little bit.
Post by
tuckmuck203
...ad hominem
No, you should be googling it.
Ad hominem is a fallacy, a misjudgement in argumentation (May be intentional or not). In short, your arguments are rendered invalid based on who you are (example, because you are <insert nationality>, your oppinions do not count).
"In my oppinion it's because blizzard doesn't think it's such a big deal. I don't think it is either. I'm horde and I win roughly 80% of my alterac valleys."
"Yet you think having to jump over a stream rather than just running to a specific area is? You're quite strange in your list of priorities there, sir. :|"
You yourself said jumping over a stream is harder than running. Monjaru questioned the logic behind it, since you seem to see the AV thing as "not a big deal". That's not ad hominem, it's questioning your logic. Quite a fair point, and you answered it now... Wanna know the irony?
With ad hominem.
"I lose most of my gilneas' and alliance have the advantage. Threfore it's not fair."
That is what ad hominem actually IS, and a false generalization fallacy thrown in as well.
Last question you point as ad hominem? You dodged his point. Completelly. It's not ad hominem. You should really google it yourself before asking people to.
No, the ad hominem here is that everyone is attacking my oppinions, and not debating the actual topic anymore. Ad hominem is indeed a logical fallacy, which is why I was pointing it out. These arguments are attacking me personally, and then if the person who is attacking me personally thinks they've won the debate about my being "inferior" then they're going to say"See? Tuck is stupid don't believe him." Which is ad hominem, despite being vaguely persuasive.
Edit:I'm tempted to requote you, and "fix" it, but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
Yet you made this thread which is completely retarded.
You're misunderstanding me.
I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this
, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.
Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
Also, misleading title is misleading. Saying that you've "proven" favoritism for one side or the other implies the first definition. I did go back and notice that you didn't mention Blizzard specifically in your post, however, you're heavily implying by the tone and content of your post that you meant the first definition.
Obviously, I could be wrong, but that's what it comes across as. But, if you really wanted to "prove" the second definition, you could just show us some statistics that say lots of people are switching to Alliance (which you obviously need to wait until next patch to do). As you made this thread before the patch went live, I'm inclined to believe you're retreating to the second definition to avoid my points.
If I'm off-base here, please feel free to fill me in on your logic behind the creation of this thread.
Monjaru and Astygia aren't exactly my drinking buddies, if we're in agreement you might need to reconsider what you're saying.
Also of note, changing who's favorite alliance is mid thread is basically an admission of defeat. If you imply Alliance is blizzard's favorite and then go with something like
You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oops-my-bad
Second definition there.
You've activated my trap card! "Raging Nerd That Won't Accept Defeat!"
Above: examples of offtopic attacks.
Below:Examples of on-topic debating.
There's a difference between bringing them up to level with the horde racials, and making them OP.
Yeah there is, but not here.
Enlighten me as to how a 40% sprint that stacks with other effects is as powerful as a 20% haste buff for 10 seconds? The worgen buff was unnecessary, I agree, but the others were needed. You need to see this from Blizzards perspective, this game is primarily PvE focused, whether you like it or not, and they need to get that sorted as well.
Currently
Worgen > Troll for PvP
Troll > Worgen for PvE
It won't get any more balanced than that.
What do you think the strongest horde racial is? The 2 second silence blood elves get?
That or an Orc, yeah.
2 second silence is pretty good, especially when used on a healer. Stopping them from healing will more or less always ensure a kill, and even if they are fake casting, you have another interrupt you can use to stop the actual cast.
How is that comparable to an extra trinket slot
At the expense of resilience, which is also needed, especially at this early part of the expansion.
or a heal that heals for 4% of your health every 3 seconds for 15 seconds? Assuming you have 100k health, which is rather suboptimal gear, that's 4k every 3 seconds. That's a lot of health.
Yeah. If you can't do just under 2k dps for 20 seconds, you deserve to lose. Do you believe Recuperate is overpowered as well?
If you crit 15k (not unreasonable in any way) then that negates three ticks of the heal, which is plenty, even more so when it only has five ticks to begin with. That is no more unbalanced than any self heal ability.
Horde Racials are most often used offensively, with the exception of Blood Elf, and then Alliance Racials are used defensively, with the exception of Worgen maybe.
Blizzard gave them there own racials because they want game play to be different.
Also, you have to consider, as I stated earlier, this has to be balanced around PvE as well. They need racials that are useful for that aspect of the game, and you have to admit, PvE > PvP in this game in terms of focus for Blizzard. They have always touted it as a PvE game with a thriving PvP environment, not the other way around.
Oh, and I'm not QQing. I'm just pointing out the favoritism.
Yawn, such an over-used excuse for nerfs and other classes/races getting buffs.
There is no favoritism, you just want to try and find these things because you're annoyed/upset/angry about the changes and want to find excuses about it.
I still win roughly 50% of my battlegrounds, which I'm perfectly happy with.
but dude, if Blizzard had Alliance favoritism they would win more than Horde!
What I will say is that I saw a
pve geared
draenei blood DK today in battle for gilneas, and he had 176k health. I find it doubtful that even 4 on one would have taken him down.
Lol'd. No resilience and it won't matter how much health he has, he would still be an easy kill, just longer to take down.
Get a caster
keep out of range
?
Profit.
They have easy access to both mine and water works, without even needing to cross the river. Horde have to jump across the river just to get to waterworks, which takes longer, which means that they can get reinforcements between thier two bases a lot easier than we can ours.
We don't need to cross the river. There is a road just in front of the Mine flag that goes behind the open field and, near the waterworks, you can jump from one rock to the flag group without even touching the water.
I do that with my pally and get on the flag at the same time the alliance gets there.
And it's blatantly obvious too! Not to mention easy as hell to fix. They could just randomize where horde and alliance start.
Except for that jump, I don't see a problem, really.
The racial buffs are overpowered, as well. Picture this. Draenei arms warrior. He just killed a guy, so he can heal...what is it, 25? 30% of his health? Instantly, as soon as he gets in melee range of someone, which is easy considering all the gap closers they have (Not QQing, just stating a fact. I play a frost mage, so I don't mind much about warriors :P)
No so. The current Draenei racial is a fixed value and will be changed to 20% in the next patch. Also, it's not instantly, it ticks every 1 (or 1.5) sec and you can kill him between the ticks. I also play a holy draenei pally (my main is a belf pally) and Gift of Naaru is not that big deal atm.
Thank you for responding with actual arguments, instead of dissecting what I said and using an ad hominem style of arguing, a la most people in the PvP forum. I do appreciate it :D
You're Welcome :)
I did read the rest of you're example, but I'll respond using only this quote;
Anyway, I was more talking about how the racials stack with class abilities.
This isn't Alliance specific though.
Troll with racial, Bloodlust and Slice and Dice up? Ouch.
An Orc with some trinkets and other damage improving buffs up? Boom.
Goblin with Sprint and Rocket Jump? Whoosh.
Blood Elf Rogue?
You are silenced. You are silenced. You are silenced. You are silenced.
Tauren Arms Warrior?
Can't do that whilst stunned. Can't do that whilst stunned. Can't do that whilst stunned.
Oh, and the sprint thing is actually usable in PvE, because the faster you get out of the fire, the faster you can DPS more.
Si, and I wasn't saying it was useless, but for PvE the haste is better, especially when most classes have escaping-fire moves. (Blink, Demonic Portal, Sprint, Charge etc)
The second trinket slot is at the expense of 300 resilience. That's around 3.2% damage reduction. Trading that for Darkmoon cardsis totally worth it IMO.
I didn't mean EMFH was useless because they lost the resilience, I meant that it didn't come freely, like there was no question which one you should have.
Also, I don't mean to sound like a !@#$, but could you explain to me how having a free trinket racial on a 2 minute cooldown is less OP than having a 3 minute cooldown trinket for PvE?
I don't quite understand the wording for this, but I'll give it a go.
The racial does the function of a PvP trinket, without giving the resilience.
The extra PvE trinket has to be chosen somewhat carefully, as the ICD on the trinkets clash.
The PvE trinket is better than the PvP trinket overall, and this is the point of the racial, but I agree with
I just think that racial needs to be completely scrapped and replaced, maybe with a passive 5% speed bonus and a 1% attack and cast speed increase; they could call it "Thinking on your feet."
but I want my perception back!
There's a difference between bringing them up to level with the horde racials, and making them OP. Enlighten me as to how a 40% sprint that stacks with other effects is as powerful as a 20% haste buff for 10 seconds?
Currently, Darkflight does not stack with sprint; you cannot even activate it while Sprint is going. It also doesn't work properly while stealthed; you can use it but will have zero noticable increase. Blizz says they're going to fix this somehow but right now Darkflight just isn't as uber as it's made out to be.
I'm not saying that the haste buff doesn't have it's uses, but it's certainly not as blatantly OP as the other examples from the alliance. What do you think the strongest horde racial is? The 2 second silence blood elves get?
How is that comparable to an extra trinket slot, or a heal that heals for 4% of your health every 3 seconds for 15 seconds? Assuming you have 100k health, which is rather suboptimal gear, that's 4k every 3 seconds. That's a lot of health.
Arcane Torrent is an amazing offensive and defensive tool, and I'd trade Darkflight for it any day. The torrent also replenishes mana, rage, energy, or focus; I'd rather instant replenishment + interrupt in a pinch than the weak sprint.
Oh, and don't even try to say that battle for gilneas is balanced. That's complete and utter bull@#$%, and you're an idiot if you think you can argue against it.
It's not balanced at all; like TB it's slightly flawed by design, but also like TB it's not in favor of either faction. Just like it's easier to win by defense in TB, typically in Battle for Gilneas, he who holds waterworks, wins.
What I will say is that I saw a pve geared draenei blood DK today in battle for gilneas, and he had 176k health. I find it doubtful that even 4 on one would have taken him down.
If 4 of you can't kill a target in pve gear 4vs1.... racial abilities are the least of your worries.
Post by
Monjaru
No, the ad hominem here is that everyone is attacking my oppinions, and not debating the actual topic anymore.
Apparently, you didn't mull it over long enough. First of all, you were only claiming ad hominem against me; you can't just broaden your claims to encompass more ground to avoid actually trying to refute points brought up against you. And second of all, while I did question your intellectual ability based on the fact you are continually bringing faulty logic into the discussion, I did not personally attack your opinions just because you think differently than I do. I have a basis for all the things I said against you, all the comments I made towards you, questioning your ability to think logically. Therefore it's not ad hominem. It's just calling you out on using faulty logic to defend your standpoint.
Ad hominem is indeed a logical fallacy, which is why I was pointing it out.
That's fine; we're just telling you that you're pointing it out in the wrong situation. In other words: doing it wrong.
These arguments are attacking me personally, and then if the person who is attacking me personally thinks they've won the debate about my being "inferior"
Wrong again. Again, you were only talking to me, so what others say was irrelevant. If you want to tell the people calling you a retard that they're just using ad hominem and it won't get them anywhere, fine. You have every right to. What confuses me is why you only break out the term "ad hominem" on
me
. It just shows that you have no real grasp of the meaning of it.
And actually, I tend to be as objective as possible. If you make a thread that doesn't include baseless claims and isn't wrought with faulty logic, I'd be happy to jump in on your side. You're generalizing again...
then they're going to say"See? Tuck is stupid don't believe him." Which is ad hominem, despite being vaguely persuasive.
...not to mention basing your claims of ad hominem against me on
future events
that aren't even going to happen
. That, my friend, is the most horrifying display of a lack of logical thinking I've seen you attempt yet.
Post by
offendead
Racials are more annoying than important in an adversary.
Ally racials were long-term lame, buffing these was not out of line.
The wisdom of the one Worgen racial (forget the name, the sprint one) is questionable since it seems really out of line in lowbie battlegrounds. But that is one tiny piece of the game.
In real pvp, don't worry about balance. Just bring a bigger (or smarter) gang. I'll concede that the direction Blizzard has gone with arenas has given more firepower to those concerned with fair balance. The cure their remains limiting what abilities work in that
contrived
setting.
All complaints about 1 on 1 balance, ability vs. ability balance, Race vs. Race balance etc. are circular and kind of pointless. If something was truly overpowered it would quickly show up in the realm metrics.
For example, DK and Pally being 30% of the 80+ population on the last census data I saw suggests an issue, since most classes hover around their "proper share" of 9-11%. Doesn't actually mean they are overpowered though, could just be a more appealing playstyle/mechanic. So it's not actually an issue unless the game
needs
all classes to be equally played.
Post by
Neffy
I play a frost mage
LOL
Dear god, is this joke still being made? Seriously, this is like saying there are no girls on the internet, it's not even close ot being correct, it's already gotten old, and it's now just $%^&ing stupid.
Get trolled nerd.
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Monjaru
Well, if I might nitpick a bit, I've yet to make a post that went beyond 5k words in this thread; the only one who's probably come close was tuckmuck in his last quote-fest of a comment.
On a more serious note, though: I don't think that asking Blizzard would help the situation either, to be honest. There'll always be someone who'd still say, "No way, of COURSE Blizzard was lying! If they really favored Alliance/Horde, they wouldn't TELL us! Duh!"
As for why I continue to argue with such ridiculous claims, I just think it's fun. If it gets on my nerves too much, I'll stop. Generally, my stubbornness to "win" an argument will override my grated nerves, though, so it's not often. I just like to tell illogical people why they're illogical, I guess. Lol. Feeds my ever-expanding egocentricity.
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Monjaru
Yeah, I'm no magical forum-saver, but I don't see why the discussion can't turn into an interaction similar to that which you and I are currently having.
Is it really that hard?
When one side brings logic into a situation, and the other doesn't want to hear it? Yes. It's quite difficult to have a calm, understanding interaction.
What's more, we're currently not engaging on opposing sides of anything in particular, so our current exchange isn't exactly an ideal comparison to the current topic at hand where there are (at least) two, clearly unwavering sets of opinions.
I do sometimes wish discussions like this could be more civil, but civility usually doesn't get a point across unless the other side is willing to accept reason. Not trying to be argumentative, just being realistic.
Post by
camy009
Hello, Horde, look at your Tauren, now back to me, now back at your Tauren, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped creating horde characters and switched to Human, he could pwn like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in AV with the Human your Tauren could reroll to. What’s in your bag, back at me. I have it, it’s a trinket with a crit proc for that buff you love. Look again, the buffs are now proccing. Anything is possible when your character rolls to Alliance and not a Horde. I’m in a guild.
But honestly... AV is broken, no questions about it.
Blood elf racial lost effectiveness when blizzard gave (almost) every class a silence of some kind.
Tauren racial shares DR... gg
Troll racial is decent
Orc racial is decent
Undead racial, I don't understand why they haven't changed it. It's not as bad as taurens, but the 45 second CD was just a duct tape fix.
Goblin racial, really the only racial that stands out.
Human racial, we already know
dwarf racial, about same level as troll and orc.
Night Elf, don't know why I see people complain about this... Too many people trying to use it as feign death I guess...
Draenei racial, decent heal. Nothing really else... The 1% hit chance is pretty decent though and probably the best passive.
Gnome, never see this get talked about. Not a bad racial, good against really anyone with a root.
Worgen, a sprint? Really?
Post by
Monjaru
Hello, Horde, look at your Tauren, now back to me, now back at your Tauren, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped creating horde characters and switched to Human, he could pwn like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in AV with the Human your Tauren could reroll to. What’s in your bag, back at me. I have it, it’s a trinket with a crit proc for that buff you love. Look again, the buffs are now proccing. Anything is possible when your character rolls to Alliance and not a Horde. I’m in a guild.
I think this needs to be made into a Youtube video. You could be famous and get on Ellen.
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