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Rift - worth buying?
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Post by
Murrdurr
The rose colored glasses some of these Rift players have on is hilarious.
Post by
Adamsm
The rose colored glasses some of these Rift players have on is hilarious.
No worse then the ones that believe Vanilla was the ultimate age of Warcraft....
Post by
Murrdurr
The rose colored glasses some of these Rift players have on is hilarious.
No worse then the ones that believe Vanilla was the ultimate age of Warcraft....
Yeah I laugh at them to.
Post by
Cyonisper
The rose colored glasses some of these Rift players have on is hilarious.
No worse then the ones that believe Vanilla was the ultimate age of Warcraft....
So true... "Lets open up level 60, 70, and 80 servers, because the vinilla content was best!"
I'm not sure if I should die laughing or cry... I never want to do Molten Core again... ever...
Post by
seebs
The rose colored glasses some of these Rift players have on is hilarious.
Could be. It's hard to be sure, of course, but to be honest, I've not found a lot of evidence that I'm generally highly vulnerable to the rose-colored-glasses bug.
The 1.01 patch went live. Minor content patch (think of it as like the first .0x patch after a WoW major patch or expansion pack). Servers were down for 50 minutes. It fixes the majority of the things people had identified as bugs.
I guess... It's working for me. It's doing what I want, it's doing a good job of that, and I'm having fun. It may not do well in the market, but so far I've seen nothing to suggest that it's likely to do badly, and the response to the first patch seems pretty positive. We'll see. If RIFT does well, it'll be a big win for WoW players as well, because companies always work harder when they think they have competition. :)
Post by
Monday
Yes, yes. Fact remains, the decision to make Starcraft II require online access to play unless you specially pre-register intent to play offline was made by Activision people, not by people who had been, before the merger, Blizzard employees. Corporate structure can be whatever it wants to be for tax reasons; at the end of the day, Bobby Kotick makes the calls on selling Blizzard's products. He doesn't necessarily get control over game mechanics, but you have to get through the licensing and facebook partnerships and stuff to get to the game mechanics. They called it a "merger" because it was, in practice, a merger; that they're doing fiddly business with corporate bodies does not change this.
Just thought I'd say: This is a load of crap unless you cite your sources. Hell, just use wikipedia (as long as the wikipedia page is sourced).
I guess... It's working for me. It's doing what I want, it's doing a good job of that, and I'm having fun. It may not do well in the market, but so far I've seen nothing to suggest that it's likely to do badly, and the response to the first patch seems pretty positive. We'll see. If RIFT does well, it'll be a big win for WoW players as well, because companies always work harder when they think they have competition. :)
Indeed.
Also, question: Do you play a Cleric?
Post by
seebs
Yes, I will totally put a lot of time and effort into citing sources when Blizzard announced a
merger
. Mergers often result in companies existing separately for tax reasons or accounting purposes; doesn't mean there's not relationship there.
I dunno, maybe you think the people who spent five years telling us never, ever, to give our login name to any other person, even people we trust, suddenly decided we should give it out to our friends. I don't.
Heck. Just go to
www.activisionblizzard.com
. That answer your question?
In RIFT, as in WoW, I play all the available classes, so yes, I play clerics, rogues, warriors, and mages.
Post by
Monday
doesn't mean there's not relationship there.
Until you cite a source about this, then frankly I'm not going to believe you when you say that Activision executives are calling Blizzard's shots.
I dunno, maybe you think the people who spent five years telling us never, ever, to give our login name to any other person, even people we trust, suddenly decided we should give it out to our friends. I don't.
I'm not sure I understand your metaphor.
In RIFT, as in WoW, I play all the available classes, so yes, I play clerics, rogues, warriors, and mages.
How's Inquisitor when you get to higher levels?
Post by
seebs
There's no metaphor. Blizzard's security staff explicitly said that you should NEVER give your login name to ANYONE, not even close friends. Suddenly, to use Real ID, you must give people your login name. That directly contradicts their previous advice...
I dunno about nice happy citable sources, but given the number of people who reported that friends at Blizzard were very upset about the Real ID thing (and still don't like the use of real names, etcetera), but that it was handed down from on high because it's a "marketing" call... Heck, go read the announcements on the old forums. Oh, wait, you can't because they've deleted the old forums. :)
Haven't tried inq at higher levels. I've gotten about as far as a 24 justicar so far on my cleric.
BTW, since it's particularly likely to be of interest to wowhead users:
http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?118471-Site-and-App-Builders.-You-can-be-one-too
.
Trion is making available for download essentially the database that you would need to build RIFThead. Not the WHOLE database -- just everything that players have discovered so far. And they plan to keep updating it. So this is just as good as having the wowhead addon, and having every single player in the game running it and uploading, only without any bogus data points due to bugs.
You just ftp in and grab it. You don't have to sign a special agreement or get picked by them or anything.
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Post by
Monday
I tried Riftblade, but I couldn't get into it. My character was a Cabalist/Inquisitor/Warden, and I liked him a lot, even if I got all sorts of spells that I never used.
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Post by
seebs
I tried Riftblade, but I couldn't get into it. My character was a Cabalist/Inquisitor/Warden, and I liked him a lot, even if I got all sorts of spells that I never used.
That's a thing which I found frustrating at first, but which makes sense after I read one of the dev blogs. Early on, some trees had pretty noticeable gaps, and stuff without which they were sorta useless. So! They added the "roots" system, and made sure every tree has some kind of basic attack, for instance. Thing is, that means you end up with three of those "some kind of basic attack", and the chances are quite good that you won't really need all three. (There are no "monsters immune to fire" to worry about.) So the design is that you just get a few extra powers and you don't necessarily use all of them.
That said, sometimes maybe you do; I have a paladin/warlord whose basic attack powers give various effects, such as reduced enemy damage output or reduced enemy armor. Rotating these gets very nice effects. :)
Post by
seebs
I left Wow after the GC thread essentially telling players to "l2play" and a very vocal part of the community was applauding this behavior.
I never saw that, sounds like I missed out!
I will say I prefer questing in Wow. I think there is a lot to do and the world feels bigger. However, the Rift world felt more "alive".
The world is definitely bigger. Comparing Vanilla to RIFT, the RIFT world is physically a great deal smaller, but has more quest hubs. Basically, combine all the quests from Elwynn Forest and Westfall into a single zone, then add about 50% more quests than that, and make the zone about half the size of Elwynn Forest. It's a lot
denser
.
I would have liked more professions. But I'm not missing it at the moment.
I'd love more professions, but I do very much appreciate that they're useful and that you can take three. :)
For me, Rift gave me what I wanted badly from Wow... and it wasn't anything amazing either.. I wanted more depth in character customization (talent trees) and the ability to play a pure Tank or Healer... and oh of course... to play a support role. Like the Archon, which is my favorite mage soul.
Yeah. When I left WoW, I went to City of Heroes, where some of the very best support characters
have no healing at all
. And you can do raid content without healers. It was a real eye opener for me. And I've been having that same experience; I really like the way the "root" system lets them make sure that you are viable if you focus on one tree, without giving you a ton of off-spec powers that you just suck at.
To avoid being flamed or trolling. I loved Wow. But the GC post really had me asking myself "Why am I giving these people my money?" and I just woke up. I was a huge Wow advocate for a long time. Wow was THE game to play. But that one post... soured me overnight. I moved away from Wow not for any functional problems with the game... but because of what I perceived as just plain arrogance on the part of Blizzard.
Same for me, it was just earlier. It was seeing every single MVP say they'd stop posting if the Real ID forum change happened, and Blizzard said,
after
that, "we know some people will leave and we think that'll be good for the game and forums". Yeah, losing all your MVPs while the trolls are cheering you on is totally going to improve things.
But yeah. I loved WoW, and honestly, what I saw of Cataclysm, I almost entirely liked. (The exception is the requirement to fully specialize in one tree before you can put anything in others. I
liked
viable hybrid specs... And whaddya know, I found a game that has them.)
So, Trion's been having a problem. They are having way worse account compromise issues than WoW has been. Or at least, worse than they were in WoW when I was last playing. So they've announced what they're doing, which is basically partially locking accounts so you can't strip them and sell their stuff and send the money on, and you unlock by grabbing a code that they mail to you.
This would be better, of course, if your login name weren't your email address...
Post by
Monday
No company is perfect. I feel the Authenticator was one of the best moves to account security.
Post by
seebs
No company is perfect. I feel the Authenticator was one of the best moves to account security.
Absolutely agreed. I have nothing but respect for that, and the decision to also offer free apps for it was quite good. I never understood why people complained about that. The "it's a money-making scheme" complaint was offensively stupid.
Post by
Zoneseek
I'm enjoying it a lot more then cataclysm, that expansion ruined wow for me.
Still lurking on wow forums though, ill prob come back for level 90 and see how things are.
WoW vs Rift I would still probably side with WoW in the long run, but cataclysm vs rift...I would rather be playing rift, so I am.
Post by
Monday
No company is perfect. I feel the Authenticator was one of the best moves to account security.
Absolutely agreed. I have nothing but respect for that, and the decision to also offer free apps for it was quite good. I never understood why people complained about that. The "it's a money-making scheme" complaint was offensively stupid.
How are dungeons? I hear they are the usual MMO instances, but I'd like to know whether you think they bosses are interesting.
Post by
Patty
No company is perfect. I feel the Authenticator was one of the best moves to account security.
It would be if they bloody delivered them.
"Get an authenticator! By the way, we don't send them to where you live."
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