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Post by
AWildmann
So no Bane? Gotta hard cast it Drain spec takes 3/3 SnF and mana feed.
SB spec takes 3.3 SnF and 3/3 bane, forsaking mana feed.
Really? :(
So I would have to hard cast it 3 freaking seconds twice to get 3/3 Shadow embrace? :(
Oh dear god I'm gonna hate this. I can't stand casting stuff that lasts 2.5 seconds, 3 then, I'm gonna get crazy.
Post by
asakawa
Drain spec only casts instant SBs. Haunt stacks SE.
Post by
AWildmann
So I should only apply SE with Haunt, but if I do cast SB it would get the debuff sooner, which I think is better, isn't it?
Post by
Metalfenrir
You would open up with a shadow bolt and then follow it up with a haunt. You don't want to wait for a nightfall proc to get the 5% crit debuff up, plus you get 2/3 stacks of SE off the bat. Your third stack of SE would be applied once haunt comes off cd for the first time.
Post by
asakawa
If you're the only one in your raid that can apply the 5% crit debuff then don't play drain spec.
Post by
AWildmann
Right now I have a 31/04/06 build, I only cast SB to apply the SE and SnF debuffs, then I start draining, seems like I've been doing it wrong for awhile =/
Post by
Kniterider
i think blizz needs to buff the voidwalker. It is sooo weak. all of the pets scaled with level. the attacks hit harder as they grow and we get more health as we level. Why does sacrafice hold just as much damage as it did when warlocks had 30k health... sacrafice used to be a good 1 third of our health, now its a melle swing away from being gone, its sooo bad because it hasnt been buffed since wrath.
Post by
DraconisAerius
i think blizz needs to buff the voidwalker. It is sooo weak. all of the pets scaled with level. the attacks hit harder as they grow and we get more health as we level. Why does sacrafice hold just as much damage as it did when warlocks had 30k health... sacrafice used to be a good 1 third of our health, now its a melle swing away from being gone, its sooo bad because it hasnt been buffed since wrath.
I would tend to agree that it is fairly weak, but it does do enough of a job to allow us time to pop a healthstone and another healing item or 2. I think Blizz want's it to be more of a tactic to buy time, not something on par with a priests PW:S.
Post by
DraconisAerius
The offical Patch 4.1 notes have been posted. WoWinsider thinks this means we will see 4.1 on Tuesday, and man I hope they are right cause it's exciting. Link added to the OP.
Post by
asakawa
4.1 going live and all I can think is, poor Demo >.<
Current empirical data shows:
Destro > > Aff > Demo
4.1 looks like it will make it:
Aff > Destro > > > Demo
In 4.0.6 the spellpower buff and strong AoE made Demo a great choice on some fights and still a good option on all the others. I can't help but worry that 4.1 is going to make people wonder why they would ever go Demo for PvE.
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Post by
asakawa
The Soulstone thing is cool but they talked about this so long ago that now it's just something that was supposed to be in 2 patches ago.
Post by
A027059
I couldn't agree more Asakawa. I will be 86'ing my Demo spec and running Affliction and Destro. The numbers are just too good for Affliction according to the sims. And if the numbers hold up, I imagine a quick nerf to Aflock's as well.
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Post by
DraconisAerius
In 4.0.6 the spellpower buff and strong AoE made Demo a great choice on some fights and still a good option on all the others. I can't help but worry that 4.1 is going to make people wonder why they would ever go Demo for PvE.
Kiting the adds on magmaw? And how about soloing? Demo still has it's place, but I agree that less people will choose it unless it is needed for a specific mechanic, such as those horrible lava parasites.
Post by
asakawa
With buffs to both RoF and SoC demo will also lose its AoE speciality. For Magmaw, since it's melee range AoE anyway, this is no bad thing.
Post by
AWildmann
I hope Demo gets any attention, I just changed to demo to aid in the raid with the 10% spell power buff, but it seems that even with the buff, my damage will be quite lackluster compared to all other specs I could offer.
Post by
DraconisAerius
I hope Demo gets any attention, I just changed to demo to aid in the raid with the 10% spell power buff, but it seems that even with the buff, my damage will be quite lackluster compared to all other specs I could offer.
The thing about that is.... we have a shaman who provides that buff anyway....
And asa... with those adds, sometimes it's nice to be able to run away from them, while still doing damage to them. And from my own personal numbers with RoF, and demo's AoE, demo will still be far ahead. On 5 targets my RoF is barely breaking 6k dps, and yet on the same number of targets demo can be pulling over 21k dps. A 30% increase is not going to even those out for me.
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