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My second agi trinket is still
Matrix Restabilizer
. As Zakkhar says, agi trinkets in T13 just don't have worthwhile procs. Except for Wrath of Unchaining ofc.
For Yor'sahj, don't take double stamina. Take Indomitable Pride and Mirror of Broken Images. Imho you NEED that extra cd when your stacks get high. Switching to the stam flask on that fight also helps, since his melee hits are pitiful, it's the magic damage that hurts like hell.
Another boss where I felt I needed some extra stamina the first time I killed it, is Ultraxxion. Especially when taking initial aggro. Kinda sucks, since you wanna max dps and thus are inclined to use double agi.
But y'know, just try combos out yourself :)
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I'm with Zakkhar on this one. I'd say why, but he already wrote it all. Vial of shadows is definitely viable, but as a tank you should maximize survivability, and that means passing on dps procs.
Agi = nice.
Agi + mastery = SO TASTY
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Seriously foley. We pick dps talents because there are no other talents that are better. We don't say they are totally useless. And besides, we need SOME tps in the end.
Again, we don't say that Vial is totally useless either.
It's just subpar to a trinket with both agi and a mastery proc (or mastery and an agi on use). And sadly DS doesn't have that.
So Vial does 10% of your damage. Damage is not a tank's job. Survival is. 10% for a hunter or rogue or kitty or enh shammy will mean a lot more than for a bear. But as you're a kitty by nature, I can see how you missed that.
Edit: I wonder if you also use Wrath of Unchaining + Vial of Shadows on Yorsahj hc mister "stam-trinkets-suck". Then again, with all the nerfs that might be doable by now ...
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With 500% threat gen, TPS is a terrible reasoning. So set that aside for the purposes of this argument. Damage dealt vs survivability has been the focus of the conversation.
Foley brings up a valid point. It is very much worthwhile to pass up a tiny bit of survivability if the damage you deal as a tank is actually needing to ramped up. He is arguing for Off-tanks making this change. The type of tank that need much higher snap threat (this is burst threat not TPS) and are often enough left alone to burn a set of mobs down.
Anything that speeds up either is more then worth a trade-off in survivability.
Edit: I wonder if you also use Wrath of Unchaining + Vial of Shadows on Yorsahj hc mister "stam-trinkets-suck". Then again, with all the nerfs that might be doable by now ...
Try again..
Agi trinkets are huge for bears. I tank with them every single day.
There are only a few bosses that you require stam trinkets for.. and only on heroic.
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Or... (being that this is the druid forum, and we're assuming the off tank is a feral) You can do what most guilds do.... and have him swap into his dps gear and tear down that claw with ease...then charge back to the rest of his friends with zero time wasted, and actually do some competitive damage to Zon'ozz as a kitteh!
Actually on my ex-guild's first kill, they used a kitty to offtank the second claw (with 2 feral tanks on standby, me included (and I have kitty offspec)).
But fair enough, I yield.
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