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Post by
Tontons
Those of you trying out your tank on beta - what rotation are you using? With Crusader Strike having 3 GCD long cooldown I have trouble finding a nice rotation...
Post by
Ahrendel
It's... currently... 3 seconds long... on live...
Don't forget that haste buffs will affect our GCD now. Certainly don't think we'll be GOING for it, by any means. I'm finding things to be a little more like Retribution now. In fact, I fully expect to see a CLCRet type addon, except it'll be CLCProt now.
Rotation doesn't seem to be set in stone nearly as much as it is now, where we have a CS x CS x CS SotR CS x CS x CS SotR type rotation. It seems to be much more flexible than currently, in which we use our priority list more than now.
CS > AS > J > CS > Cons > HW > CS > SotR / WoG
Then it seems to delve into whatever highest priority is up first.
But I haven't played Beta in a month or two now, so it may have changed. Keep in mind SotR buffs us now to WoG stronger. SotR stacks a buff up to 5 times when used, each buff granting 10% more heal with WoG. Also, now no overhealing on WoG, so it's only good when you take a big hit then WoG right after. Kinda sad about that.
You also have Sacred Shield (if you take it, which I think most prots will) to keep up every 30 seconds.
Post by
Nooska
It's... currently... 3 seconds long... on live...
He said 3 GCD, not 3 seconds (I know, I read it the same way at first)
@Tontons for upto the minute (more or less) info on protadin in MoP, I recommend following the MoP board on maintankadin;
http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=47
(saves a lot of questions)
Post by
Tontons
Thanks, Nooska!
I noticed few more rotation changing changes:
1)
Judgement generates HP.
2)
We have passive ability Boundless Conviction which allows to store up to 5 HP. (And if you choose Pursuit of Justice talent, you might even try to keep at least 2 HP at some times as each HP up to 3 gives 10% movement speed increase).
3)
At lvl 75 we get HP saving talent.
a) Holy Avenger - for 15 s (2 min CD) every HP-generating attack generates 3 HP not 1.
b) Sanctified Wrath - during Avenging Wrath (20s with 3 min CD) Judgement has no CD.
c) Divine Purpose - 15% chance not to consume HP when using it.
So rotation might be something like this:
CS - J -
AS
- CS -
SotR
- J - CS -
Cons
-
HW
- CS - J -
SotR
- CS - ...
That means - generating HP with CS and J and using them both if both are off CD as we can store 4 HP easily. And if Grand Crusader procs we can hit AS on the very next hit even if we already have 3 HP...
To sum it up I'll say it's currently harder to gather HP, but the HP management has been made easier :)
We also get some mage-like rotations if we choose Holy Avenger talent:
CS - SotR - J - SotR - CS - SotR - J - SotR
or Sanctified Wrath talent:
J - J - J - SotR - J - J - J - SotR (or you can throw in some CS and hope for Grand Crusader)
Also that SotR buffed WoG mentioned by Ahrendel seems to be quite big - I did 55k heal as lvl 85.
Post by
Fetzie
Also, ShoR is off the GCD.
Post by
Nooska
And with the way SotR looks right now, the HA rotation you posted would not be used as such (SotR is damage, but more importantly as a tank, mitigation).
SotR being off CD would mean a HA rotation would be CS - (Sotr)J - (WoG)filler.
There is no good reason to use SotR during the buff if it doesn't extend it, or if the buff is extended to maximum (currently I'm not sure whether SotR extends the buff).
If you pop HA for maximum mitigation you would of course bank the HP till the buff is off or can be extended so you can have a period of full mitigation up - however I don't foresee any fights where it will be needed to do so, relegating HA to a "oh snap!" button to get mitigation and healing on yourself fast.
Post by
Fetzie
As far as I am aware, it extends the buff duration.
Post by
Nooska
Last I read, it extends it once, and then not again until it drops off - of course, beta being beta, it may be a bug that it only extends it once and it may be a bug that it extends it at all (right now it doesn't make a lot of sense imo at least)
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