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Taming etiquette
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Post by
MikadoGG
Hi guys.
So I got into taming rares recently on my favorite hunter alt. I've been sitting around Molten Front for the last two days trying to catch 'em all. Today, I logged in after work and Skitterflame popped on my npcscan. When I got closer I realized a hunter had just run up to him and started taming. He apparently had no idea about the strat for this particular tame at all because he was not even attempting to trap him. So I stood back and watched. He failed and died to his melee attacks.
So I decided to give it a go too. I succeeded in taming him even though there was a warlock trying to kill him at the same time. When I engaged he blew his cooldowns, pulled aggro and got his pet and himself killed while I proceeded to trap and tame the spider. Skitterflame only had 15k HP left when the tame went off. So I'm sitting there all happy I got this red beauty when the first hunter starts whispering calling me a @#$%head and saying how dare I tame him when I saw him trying to tame. Proceeded to tell me I'm a failure (which I found to be kind of ironic given that I had just succeeded at something he failed moments earlier.)Then he says he's sick of playing with "kids" and ignores me as I'm trying to explain to him I thought it was fair game for me to try taming since he just failed.
I was pretty blown away by this. From his reaction you'd think I interfered with his tame or griefed him or killed the spider when he was trying to tame it. I thought if one hunter fails and dies it is fair game. But am I wrong? Is it bad that I tamed him? I mean I've also spent some time camping the spawn points for all of them. What is the general consensus on WoWhead? What things do you find cross the line in terms of taming and what things are perfectly fair?
In the few days I've spent around Molten Front I've seen non-hunters kill the rares just for the hell of it. I got griefed several times in the middle of tames by other hunters and random onlookers. But I haven't actually fought with anyone over it. The worst I said was "that was not cool" and moved on.
Post by
Nooska
I haven't done a whole lot of rare taming, but my view is this;
If Hunter A tries a tame and fails, it is still Hunter A's target prmarily - provided the tame was attempted "correctly". If Hunter A is just trying without really trying (you know what I mean), then Hunter B sitting "next in line" has a fair go at it after Hunter A fails.
The biggets problem with taming ettiquette is the number of platyers that try to kill our rare tames (imo) - and taming etiquette definatly is to not attack something someone else is trying to tame (caveat, PvP realms could possibly have different etiquette on this, as they are, by definition, player versus player - but I would expect a kill of the hunter, not the taming target)
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Post by
ElhonnaDS
I think you were fine. I don't think that will change his reaction, but I don't think you were out of line. Honestly, with rare tames it's whoever gets the tame off first. I won't screw someone up who is taming, but if we're both in the area for the same pet, I'm going to do my best to get the tame off first. And if they start the tame and die, probably because they were planning poorly, then I'd go in for the tame. They're rare and it's a competition.
If they're the other faction, though, there is no etiquette. Red is dead when it comes to competition for pets. I wouldn't kill a pet just to spite them, but I'd sure kill them and try to get it if it was one I wanted.
You're going to get flamed by people with a ridiculous sense of entitlement no matter how courteously you play. I was once out mining on a flier, and I got flamed because I landed and mined a node that someone on a ground mount had been "on their way to" from outside my field of vision. I have been flamed for not dropping the price on something on the AH from 400 gold to 50 gold, just because they asked me to. I had a friend cursed out by a level 72 who he'd just helped carry through an old raid because he won a mace and wouldn't turn it over when the 72 demanded it (the 72 had also rolled need on every single item he could, including the epic gems for vendor trash). People will curse and cry because they didn't get what they wanted, regardless if they had any fair right to expect being given it. It's a mark of maturity to accept losing fairly and congratulate the winner, and maturity is not something online communities are known for.
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ElhonnaDS
i read your story and i feel sad for your friend ElhonnaDS, helping someone else doing something and then getting a foul mounth in return.
no wonder so many people turn cynical in-game after a while.
In the end, it worked out better for my friend than the moron who flamed him. That person had left his guild not a day before to join ours, because we ran a lot of old content and he wanted to get his 72 in on the action. We let him to be nice, even though we don't really invite random people. We had already finished BT that week, so he put together a pug and must not have noticed that my friend was a guildie of his when he invited him from trade chat.
As a result of his little temper tantrum he got guild kicked almost immediately (we don't deal with nonsense drama in my guild) and denied invites to future old content with us. He was also kind enough to curse me out on every toon of his, when I informed him he had been kicked, so I now have a list of all of them on ignore, in case he ever tries to slip in on one of his 85's =D
And my friend got a good story and a fabulous new transmog mace.
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Post by
MikadoGG
EDIT:- OT
I'd never screw anyone out of a tame, on either faction.
First come first served. If I see someone clearly camping a rare and I get it when they are not on, I'll mail them and let them know when I tamed it, in case it has a spawn timer.
I know many others won't but decency doesn't have to be dead in the game.
I'm not sure if you're saying what I did is justified or wrong. I don't think he was camping that particular rare. I imagine if he had been he'd have known the strat for taming it, which he clearly didn't and I did cause I did my research beforehand. Plus I had camped it too, except I have to go to work and do other RL things, so I cannot be there 24/7 to camp-camp.
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Post by
Scotia
IMHO, you were fine. You waited, he obviously didn't know what he was doing, and you didn't interfere. When he died, it was your turn.
If his cruddy attitude afterward is any indication of his true character behind the screen, I'm glad YOU got the tame.
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Post by
Scotia
I also feel the need to point out that the "rare" spawns don't really seem to be all that rare. Back when the very first spirit beast was released that was some competition I saw it turn into giant guild vs. guild fights on my pvp server over which hunter was going to get the tame. There were times that Sholazar Basin had bigger fights than Wintergrasp. Now there are so many rares and challenge spawns, and honestly the spawn timers don't seem as brutal as they used to, that somebody pitching a fit over taming something seems pretty silly.
Interesting. My experience does not mirror yours. Spawn timers are still pretty brutal in my experience. Just a few months ago, I was hunting for Skoll for my horde hunter and it was pretty ridiculous.
Also, it's just going to get worse with this stupid cross-realm zone smush thing that Blizzard somehow decided was a good idea... some night when they were high on meth or something.
Post by
Xexji
Why didn't you or the other hunter just tame one of the Cinderweb spiders in that area? Same skin, so nobody could know the difference.
Deth and Solix have unique skins, so if you want their colors you have to tame them.
Kirix you can sort of get around, but it's not a guarantee the mobs will spawn.
Red and yellow skins are very common with many spawns and no special strategy. You're wasting your time, basically.
That hunter had his chance to tame the spawn. He should've just tamed the Cinderweb Creeper like most of us do.
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Post by
Twizelbang
If i died while attempting a tame, because i was stupid enough to not read the tactics of how to tame something then i would say "It is my own fault" ....With this, i wouldn't mind if someone else decided to tame.
If they happen to try to kill the rare, while you happen to be taming, well thats just bad sport, i would gank them hard for such habits & /spit on the corpse. Also add in Goblin Teabag time.
A wrong doesn't make a right, but it sure does feel good, bullet to the brain. Hunter meets the hunted. So don't mess with a little hunter that happens to have a large gun... Since she will not ask questions.. shoot to kill, kill command, pew pew with them arcane shots - game over, Teabag time.
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