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3.0.8 patch upcoming. Lets talk about steady shot
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Post by
Qlix
http://wowwebstats.com/
Search specific fights. You see the top ranked fights around the world.
Anub'Rekhan
Faerlina
Maexxna (oddly none posted unless Im spelling it wrong but i used wowheads spelling)
Patchwerk
Grobbulus
Gluth
Thaddius
Rezuvious
Gothik
Horsemen
Noth
Heigan
Loatheb
Sapphiron
KT
Malygos
Sartharion
go tell me who you see at the top and where hunters are
Post by
Liam64
If you say we're OP... Youre an idiot (not you Deafaroth, just a response to this whole thing in general). Do research.
We
Scale
Better
And
They
Will
Catch
Up
With
Gear
Get it freaking straight already. Learn how we work.
Better yet... look at WWS parses. Warriors, Mages, DKs, Hunters, Ret Palladins. ALL EQUAL.
Represented in my own guild: We are all gear capped and we're all equal. Sometimes I win, Sometimes the warrior wins, sometimes the pally, the dk, and the mage.
We are not OP.
So just to clarify, you know better than Blizzard?
k :)
Post by
Qlix
If you say we're OP... Youre an idiot (not you Deafaroth, just a response to this whole thing in general). Do research.
We
Scale
Better
And
They
Will
Catch
Up
With
Gear
Get it freaking straight already. Learn how we work.
Better yet... look at WWS parses. Warriors, Mages, DKs, Hunters, Ret Palladins. ALL EQUAL.
Represented in my own guild: We are all gear capped and we're all equal. Sometimes I win, Sometimes the warrior wins, sometimes the pally, the dk, and the mage.
We are not OP.
So just to clarify, you know better than Blizzard?
k :)
are you completely retarded? Do you even understand what wws is?
Its taken directly from the combat log. The very thing that makes EVERY mechanic in the game work. Omen. Recount. Every aspect of a fight is recorded in that log.
These arent random reports. These are the best performances in the world ranked in order top to bottom.These are in game results from live. Not the ptr.
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141898
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Post by
Argg0
I've never seen a DK or a Ret on the top. I've warrior once or twice. I've seen Mages a few times. I've seen Hunters MANY times.
We are too high on meters. Specially on low move requirement fights like Patchwerk.
However... I'm still waiting the instant spells buff. They said that they were going to help us on PvP... so we should see something happening at least on Arcane Shot.
Post by
Taedae
They said that they were going to help us on PvP... so we should see something happening at least on Arcane Shot.
unfortunatly they did a little with Deterrance
4) Deterrence – has been completely overhauled. It now allows you to deflect 100% of incoming melee or spell damage for 5 seconds, but prevents you from attacking while active. You still must be facing the attacker to deflect the damage (this is a limitation we are trying and might end up removing). 60 sec cooldown.
IMHO, thats the worst thing you could do to it. sure, we deflect everything for 5 secs but we cant attack and we have to face them (might be moved). atleast let us attack, its only for 5 secs.
Bold = New Steady Shot
RAP 3500 x .2 + 252 = 952
RAP 3500 x .1 + 252 = 602
Now, watch what happens when you start getting better gear and more AP.
RAP 4000 x .2 + 252 = 1052
RAP 4000 x .1 + 252 = 652
RAP 4500 x .2 + 252 = 1152
RAP 4500 x .1 + 252 = 702
RAP 5000 x .1 + 252 = 1252
RAP 5000 x .1 + 252 = 752
Where 500 AP before the nerf would present a 100 damage increase to your steady shot, it now equals a 50 damage increase to your steady shot.
wow, thats a huge drop, depending on your ap.
Post by
Qlix
I've never seen a DK or a Ret on the top. I've warrior once or twice. I've seen Mages a few times. I've seen Hunters MANY times.
We are too high on meters. Specially on low move requirement fights like Patchwerk.
However... I'm still waiting the instant spells buff. They said that they were going to help us on PvP... so we should see something happening at least on Arcane Shot.
then you are running with crap warriors, dk's and pallies. no offense but its the truth. look at the reports. Its not about what you see in your runs. its about whats seen across the board through reports.
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Post by
Taedae
At least we can move; Mages would kill to be able to move during Ice Block, and keeping facing isn't hard unless there's already something behind us to begin with, in which case you might not use Deterrence in the first place.
True, but mages get it for double the time and the CD for it is 1/2 of ours
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45438
Post by
Cykotikone
IMO, I noticed hunters were a bit OP after the patch. I expected a nerf, I expected it on pets. What I DIDN'T expect was for blizzard to go crazy on the nerfs!
Let's see now:
Nerfs
------------------------------------------
-10% Pet dmg
-10% Pet attack speed
-30% Volley base dmg and dmg coefficent
-10% Steady Shot AP dmg
Improved Tracking only works on ranged
Readiness no longer works on BW
Call of the Wild only works on Hunter and Pet
Less coefficent on rake and scorpid sting
Yea, thats alot maybe we got alot in return...
Buffs
----------------------------------------
AotW affects whole raid
Viper Sting drains percent
Kill Shot CD reduced
.......oh goodie? = \
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Post by
Argg0
I've never seen a DK or a Ret on the top. I've warrior once or twice. I've seen Mages a few times. I've seen Hunters MANY times.
We are too high on meters. Specially on low move requirement fights like Patchwerk.
However... I'm still waiting the instant spells buff. They said that they were going to help us on PvP... so we should see something happening at least on Arcane Shot.
then you are running with crap warriors, dk's and pallies. no offense but its the truth. look at the reports. Its not about what you see in your runs. its about whats seen across the board through reports.
I was talking about what I see on reports. If I were to talk about my own runs, I'd say:
Warlocks are the worst dps ever.
Boomkins are kickin ass and takin name's yo!
Feral really could use some help.
DKs are doing Ok.
Mages are ok.
Shammies need help.
But we are not here to talk about my own experience. Take a look on the best Patchwerk fights on WWS.
Best Patchwerk fights:
Number 1, Warlock wins. Best DK = 7th
Number 2, Rogue wins (bug abusing), but best DK ended up on 11th
Number 3, Rogue wins (again, with that abuse), best Warrior in 10th
Number 4, Three hunter wins. Warrior on 4th and 9th, DK pretty low.
Would post more, but I'm stuck on loading on WWS site.
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Post by
Anansi
I'm not really interested in whether we're OP or not, or how we compare to other classes, but more in What Does The BM Hunter Do Now? question.
I've always been BM, I like it, I never cared for my brief forays into MM and Survival doesn't interest me enough to spec into it.
But now with the Steady nerf (and others), is respeccing to MM something to consider? I know Steady is still a core shot for MM, but would the reduced damage be somewhat alleviated by the inclusion of more frequent Arcanes alongside Chimera in the MM shot rotation? As BM, I pretty much rely on the old Steady/Auto routine, throwing in stings when needed and the occasional Arcane for an extra boost of if I'm on the move.
MM seems to make room for a broader shot rotation, which maybe (?) will help pad the reduced Steady damage.
Or am I way off base on this?
Post by
Hurono
I know it's nothing huge, but Volley's damage got lowered immensely. 30% lower damage? That's just wrong to me, considering I use it all the time. It wasn't great damage before, but now, it's really done for. Plus the BM talent nerfs are
ridiculous
. We're getting screwed over now.
/salute, /camp, D-E-L-E-T-E.
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Post by
Shinn
Lol, fair ? we ONLY DPS if you nerf it you expect us to tank or heal ?
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