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Post by
osuracnaes
For me comparing healers comes down to OVERhealing (which recount does fine). Shield never overheal (unless they tick off before damage is taken) so that doesn't need to be taken into account as much.
If i see a paladin with 60% overhealing then there is a problem.
I used to follow the OMG NO OVERHEAL ideology, but then I realized something.
If you can keep people alive without mana issues, who cares about overheal? If you've got healers who are going OOM then overheal becomes an issue. But until then, avoiding overheal it is nice but not all that important.
Post by
Lohr
I'm a little sketchy about downloading things. I want to but I want confirmation that it was reviewed by Wowhead team.
Otherwise I wont. I don't even trust curse either sadly but I like your adjustments
Post by
Gryphon
The file is fine.
Post by
Samanosuke
Thats very awesome.
Thank you so much for this
:D
Post by
Samanosuke
Here are some results from Naxx (construct quarter)
http://i44.tinypic.com/2196j4x.jpg
According to this recount...
Power Word: Shield accounted for
32.9%
of my healing.
Divine Aegis accounted for
15%
of my healing.
(~48% difference from normal recount)
Compared to the basic version of recount, I moved from 5th place in healing to first.
An interesting thing I noticed during trash pulls is that my shields would "block out" other healers from healing the tank. Obviously they cant heal if the target has taken no damage :)
A bit of nitpick..
Is there any way you can round the numbers?
Also, multiplying the glyph amount by a factor of 5 may be a bit too extreme. In the interest of conservatism, you should instead multiply it by 3, 4, or 3.5.
Reason being....many talents and modifiers affect the healing portion only and do not actually increase the amount that the shield absorbs. This places the estimate for PW:S a bit too high.
Post by
Xuxa
Here are some results from Naxx last night
http://i44.tinypic.com/2196j4x.jpg
According to this recount...
Power Word: Shield accounted for
32.9%
of my healing.
Divine Aegis accounted for
15%
of my healing.
(~48% difference from normal recount)
Compared to the basic version of recount, I moved from 5th place in healing to first.
An interesting thing I noticed during trash pulls is that my shields would "block out" other healers from healing the tank. Obviously they cant heal if the target has taken no damage :)
A bit of nitpick..
Is there any way you can round the numbers?
Also, multiplying the glyph amount by a factor of 5 may be a bit too extreme. In the interest of conservatism, you should instead multiply it by 3, 4, or 3.5.
Reason being....many talents and modifiers affect the healing portion only and do not actually increase the amount that the shield absorbs. This places the estimate for PW:S a bit too high.
I won't use this addon until Samanosuke is happy with it.
That being said, I was really hoping something like this would come out. Keep pushing and maybe we can get it as an accepted way to track disc healing.
Post by
Samanosuke
Here are some results from Naxx last night
http://i44.tinypic.com/2196j4x.jpg
According to this recount...
Power Word: Shield accounted for
32.9%
of my healing.
Divine Aegis accounted for
15%
of my healing.
(~48% difference from normal recount)
Compared to the basic version of recount, I moved from 5th place in healing to first.
An interesting thing I noticed during trash pulls is that my shields would "block out" other healers from healing the tank. Obviously they cant heal if the target has taken no damage :)
A bit of nitpick..
Is there any way you can round the numbers?
Also, multiplying the glyph amount by a factor of 5 may be a bit too extreme. In the interest of conservatism, you should instead multiply it by 3, 4, or 3.5.
Reason being....many talents and modifiers affect the healing portion only and do not actually increase the amount that the shield absorbs. This places the estimate for PW:S a bit too high.
I won't use this addon until Samanosuke is happy with it.
That being said, I was really hoping something like this would come out. Keep pushing and maybe we can get it as an accepted way to track disc healing.
Im exceptionally happy with it :)
Just pointing out some things that critics will exploit.
Post by
Xuxa
Im exceptionally happy with it :)
Just pointing out some things that critics will exploit.
In that case, I'll give it a test run tonight when I get home from work.
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Post by
Samanosuke
Code Changes
The only change to the version of Recount used in this build was the addition of a small block of code to Tracker.lua:
This way of counting absorbtion is flawed.
3. The shields from Divine Aegis don't stack. This means that any calculation using crits * 0.3 might be highly inaccurate.
In a raid setting, Divine aegis wont last for more than 1 hit.
Virtually the only instance you will see the "potential" for it to stack is from 2-3 penance crits in a row. Granted it does happen on occassion, most/all of the shield is taken away before the 2nd penance crit/shield actually lands (only a 1.5k shield).
Slightly inaccurate...not highly.
Post by
Samanosuke
Another battle report using this recount.
Naxx 25man: Spider. Plague, Construct Quarters.
http://i43.tinypic.com/b3swlh.jpg
Healing Done:
PW:S...............33.7%
Divine Aegis.........15
Flash Heal.........11.7
Penance............10.2
PoM....................7.8
PoH....................7.3
Holy Nova...........6.4
Glyph of PW:S.....4.3
Renew.................4.3
I always spam Holy Nova during the AoE pulls resulting in high Overheal.
2 other priests were Holy
Post by
Samanosuke
A bit of nitpick..
Is there any way you can round the numbers?
Also, multiplying the glyph amount by a factor of 5 may be a bit too extreme. In the interest of conservatism, you should instead multiply it by 3, 4, or 3.5.
Reason being....many talents and modifiers affect the healing portion only and do not actually increase the amount that the shield absorbs. This places the estimate for PW:S a bit too high.
I'd like to retract this request regarding changing the factor from 5.
I did some testing on the Glyph heal to the actual shield, and it seems they have corrected this.
Results found here
http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t35208-wotlk_healing_compendium_v3_0_theorycraft_specs_etc/p58/#post1067754
Post by
Brelaine
A suggestion was made to use rapture returns as a much more accurate representation of how much is being absorbed. I am not a mod developer. Just wondering if this would be possible.
In the mean time, thanks a ton for this version, was nice to get a vague idea of how much my shields are doing.
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Post by
Cathord
If i see a paladin with 60% overhealing then there is a problem.
I disagree. Paladins tends to use judgement of light which leads to massive overhealing (about 50% of my total overhealing). So, when you get a nice 50-60% overhealing, a nice 25-30% of that comes from a spell aplied as infrequently as once per 20 seconds and for only ~ 100 mana (and my mp5 from Blessing of Wisdom alone is greater than that).
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