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PvE Holy Priest: Beginner's Guide to the Holy Way
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karlusdavius
This guide is going to be re written shortly. Any opinions or advice on what you would like me to discuss can be posted on the thread linked below, Thank You.
Your Wish List & Rewriting the Holy PvE Guide
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karlusdavius
Spec
was a little off. Looking fro your gear your probably just going into raiding. Flash heal will be pretty big for you now so i boosted it a little in the spec. Try and get your haste up a little more. get around 2k more mana (19k - 20k) and you should be set for most content coming your way. After thatm start to gem for SP + Haste. You will find your cast times become quicker therefore you can manage more incoming damage better.
other than that, your spot on.
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karlusdavius
Dont Gem for Spirit Unless its for a Meta req.
The spec is fine, im just trying to customize it a little. However if your happy with it then go for it.
Once you hit 20k mana UB (upgrades in gear etc) you can start to replace your gems with Reckless Ametrine.
The ideology behind it is that you want to be self dependant. Meaning that once you cast a CoH, you don't NEED a SoL proc to quick hit a DPS with a heal. You will most likely get one, but its knowing you don't need procs to heal quickly. That said, its also about behing able to toss out a PoH quickly without a full stack of Seredipity. Even with one Stack (From that SoL proc you just had) my PoH is down to 1.88 seconds. Thats very quick and a nice buffer to have.
Start looking for Haste gear now. The quick you hit and break 10% the more you will notice it.
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karlusdavius
anyone know whats going on with the links? the code is right yet they are spazzed out
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karlusdavius
Thanks for giving out some arguments at last. Some of them were good and I will consider them. Yet I don´t like this attitude where you miss my points and then say "if you don´t agree with me, read the stickies, you are a beginner". :)
For example, I prefer extra intelligence to HC, yet you are trying to say there is only one way of dealing with mana: HC. And if I don´t have points to put in HC you say I am contradicting myself while saying I am interested in mana.
And it is silly to say one cannot use Greater Heal or PoH without Serendipity. What if I prefer other talents? What if I don´t wanna be forced to cast Flash Heals first and due to my playing style I don´t need the extra haste but rather be starting the long casts right away?
Where did i say i don't agree with you so read the stickies because your a beginner?
Sure you can use PoH and Gheal without Serendipity, but omg you will be waiting an AGE for it to hit. By that time, you have probably lost members of your group.
Put into HoR Heroic with that build. Tell me how you do. The Cookie Cutter is there because it is a very good all round spec that gives you everything in
Balance
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karlusdavius
What procs were you relying on? you didn't; take SoL so i don;t know what you were waiting for.
The reason disc is better is because of mitigation and regen via Rapture. A discipline priests mechanics are different fro a Holy priests. Don't confuse them.
Your not meant to wait for proc's you are meant to heal. They aren't meant to be game changing, they are meant to help you. Aid you, not control you.
You need at least one point in Holy Reach. You want everyone to be hit. Granted in heroics it doesn't matter much, but its better than desperate prayer.
CoH glyph isn't needed.
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karlusdavius
What procs were you relying on? you didn't; take SoL so i don;t know what you were waiting for.
The reason disc is better is because of mitigation and regen via Rapture. A discipline priests mechanics are different fro a Holy priests. Don't confuse them.
Your not meant to wait for proc's you are meant to heal. They aren't meant to be game changing, they are meant to help you. Aid you, not control you.
You need at least one point in Holy Reach. You want everyone to be hit. Granted in heroics it doesn't matter much, but its better than desperate prayer.
CoH glyph isn't needed.
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OscarDivine
Hello, I just wanted to see if this spec is alright?
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#bVcbuZcxpcfMqih0euVo:m0NzV0
Remove 3 points from
Improved Healing
and put them into
Test of Faith
and I'd call it a fine spec.
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470168
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karlusdavius
Ok, Holy Concentration isn't meant to fill your mana bar, then again your doing HEROICS. Why are you going OOM anyway? You have so many way's of not going OOM but you shouldn't even need to pop it in a place like gundrak at all.
Your not meant to wait on SoL, you heal like normal, it proc's you use it if you need it. If not, let the proc just wear off. That said you save mana and it's instant cast. I feel you have other problems other than spec if your going OOM and think you have to wait on procs in order to perform.
Stop mentioning IDS spec, it is obsolete since they changed the way Spirit worked. Which was ages ago. Discipline gearing is different from Holy. Holy gear for haste and spell power. Discipline gears for Crit and Spell power. They already have intellect boosting talents are you know, however the idea behind stacking intellect is due to rapture. You need a certain amount if intellect in order to get returns higher than the cost of your PW:S. That is the mentality.
If a holy priest is going OOM, then their regen isn't in balance with there haste. In that scenario (which you are in) i recommend gemming more SP/Int gems to increase your Mana Pool and not going for talents than do it.
Link me you armory or a profile version of your gear, because it seems you have more problems than just spec selection.
It's not that you don't have a point, it's just that your the only person to not like SoL. that's odd.
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karlusdavius
That's where SoL comes into play tho. Use renew all you like, it's proc's SoL. Its a free heal that gives a stack of serendipity! Then you can go back to using renew.
Your gems are completely out of whack and out of date. Don't gem spirit. ever. Update your gems with SP/Int or SP/Haste.
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Post by
karlusdavius
If your doing heroic you will get stone keeper shards. If you go to wintergrasp you can trade 30 shards for 2k honor.
You can buy the gems from the pvp vendor in SW for 10k honor (hybrid) and 20k (pure). Thats the cheapest way to do it.
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