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3.1 Frost 2h DPS, Everything Explained
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Kelborn
I'm interested to see what some rotations will be like with the new HB glyph. Read this thread back when it was in the early stages of development, have been sticking to one of the rotations I picked up here ever since. I'm not really using HB all that much (only really when Rime procs) but now Rime is changed and so is HB, so would replacing of the other glyphs - IT, OB, FS - with the HB glyph be worth it?
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Aadramelekh
Yeah in the end I was thinking in the 'old school' Blood Presence DPS way. It is true that now, since Unholy will be finally fixed with a 9 seconds CD on runes instead of 10, things might turn out in that direction. I tested my DPS in both Blood and Unholy presences a few days ago for a longer period of time. I was consistently getting about 200 more DPS in Blood than Unholy, due to the fact that in UH presence the runes were too slow and leaving me with a 2-3 seconds down time per cycle, with no RP and no runes ready to use, only auto attacking. Now with the 9 seconds rune CD in Unholy, they may be on par and perhaps Unholy may even pull ahead. I'll test today after I get home from work and I get mi 3.1 build patched up and going (I am on EU servers, today is the patch day for me).
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Go ahead, use it, I don't mind :)
Just add there that 'quote=Aadramelekh' thingy-stuff-business >:D
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i agree, an excellent thread. thanks for the hard work lynri.
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Kelborn
The only thing i dont get is how we are working in a second OB with BT if the cooldown is 1min on BT. After the first two rotations what do we do then?
Since you have Blood of the North, whenever a Blood Runes becomes active (not a Death Rune) you should work a BS into your rotation.
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Post by
Marbarcy
First off, I'd like to say tremendous job on the guide Lynri, I would just like to add my 2 cents. I've been a 2h frost DK ever since before 3.10 and have loved it! Now, you say to use the frost strike glyph, IT glyph, and HB glyph pending spec, gear, and situation. In my experience, using HB to refresh your frost fever is nice, yes, but why not take the glyph of disease and only spend 1 blood rune (converting it to a death rune) to refresh BOTH diseases on all targets? It seems like that would be a more efficient use of runes, like that 1 frost rune and unholy rune could be put towards an OB. I used to be a FF only 2h frost DK, but now with the better scaling of using diseases with OB , 2 diseases almost seems mandatory...
I'm not disagreeing with you Lynri, once again, I think you've done an awesome job and hopefully this will open a few fledgling DKs eyes to the wonders of frost. I would just like your/everyone's input on this. I currently use the glyphs of FS, Disease, and OB if anyone cares to know.
EDIT: Poor grammar=/
EDIT attempt #2: Spelling
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Marbarcy
This is more directed at Errin. Frost has always been a very good dps build, no doubt. However, with the new confusion about the "best" dps build post-3.10, now is a very opportune time to show some curious DKs that frost is competitive. Very few things have changed with 3.10 for frost, aside from glyphs and the frequency of rime procs due to OB instead of IT. Sure, individual talents have changed, but overall, frost is still as solid as it was.
Due to slow connection, I can't provide an armory link atm (I'm at work), however, my name is Eradarnit on the Dawnbringer server. I'm in heroic/quest blues with 3 puny epics, yet i can pull 3k dps in 10 man naxx and 2.6k dps in heroics. Frost is competitive for sure for undergeared, aspiring dks.
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Marbarcy
I hate to keep posting like this, but I can't seem to gather my thoughts well enough for a single (or as few as two) posts. I believe multiple people here have stated many situational quirks for a 2h frost dps build. I believe the problem many people here seem have with "rotations" can simply be solved by looking at frost as more of a priority list.
1. Keep diseases up (I refresh on all targets with pest/glyph of disease)
2. If killing machine procs, frost strike
3. Obliterate
4. Howling Blast
5. Blood strike/blood boil
6. Runic dump
I apologize again for the triple post, I'm just bored at work and seem to keep finding things to say.=)
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