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Deepthought
Somedude posted above a statistic about 30% of the inmates get raped, i dont know if you do, but i wouldnt like being raped.
Poor killers and rapists, lets keep them alive, afterall they have mental disorders /cry
Cognitive dissonance much?
Iam not a huge contributor to society, but i dont do any bad to it therefore i dont see whats so bad about it.
A large murder trial will pour more than a million dollars into the economy. Have you added more than a million dollars to the economy? No?
By mental disorders i dont mean down syndromes or any of those kind, i mean people who kill just for the pleasure, people who torture just for the pleasure, people who rape small children once again just for the pleasure
But if it's a "mental disorder", that means it should be trackable, right? So why don't we track them down and pre-emptivly kill them, eh? I mean, they're only
Poor killers and rapists, lets keep them alive, afterall they have mental disorders /cry
right?
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Deepthought
Was being sarcastic
This could apply to either post I quoted.
Make yourself clear.
Yea since enough cash isnt wasted in crap already
What does this even mean?
I know you are smarter than that
I don't see why I should make the effort if you aren't.
Statistically, by the time each of your kids reaches age 18, you would have spent $1,000,000 on them (I believe this was an American statistic too) so yes, there's a pretty good possibility that they have.
Being born isn't an achivement for the baby.
This was just dumb.
That's lovely, Gorefiend. Are you going to make a counter-arguement or have you decided to fill this topic with white noise?
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260787
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Deepthought
Since when were we talking about achievements? I was retorting to your ignorance:
My point is that said economic growth is caused only by the baby being born, but the baby isn't responsible for being born, whereas a killer is responsible (in most cases) for the killing and thus the increase to the economy.
I have actually contributed a little while ago. Either way, that comment really was stupid.
He's implying that people only kill because they have a mental disoder - this arguement;
Just because someone has a mental disorder doesn't mean that they're so detached from society that they feel the urge to gain control by killing. I understand that you were being sarcastic, but the point that you were going off of was dumb. A lot of them do have mental disorders.
doesn't apply in this context.
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260787
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Deepthought
Whether or not the baby is eligible for responsibility plays no part in that point.
Yes it does, because in this case we are discussing worth to society vis-á-vis the death penalty. Whether or not you are eligible for responsibility is the entire point.
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MyTie
Whether or not the baby is eligible for responsibility plays no part in that point.
Yes it does, because in this case we are discussing worth to society vis-á-vis the death penalty. Whether or not you are eligible for responsibility is the entire point.
Whether or not you are 'worthwhile to society' cannot be decided by humans. We, even as a collective, are not a qualified authority on the worth of a human being. Therefore, I cannot agree with the death penalty.
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260787
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MyTie
And I agree with MyTie, you can't decide how much someone is worth to society. We each value different things and will base someone's worth on different factors. For example, I could say that Obama is completely worthless and shouldn't be alive right now yet I'm sure most of America would disagree with me. Because I think he's worthless, should I be able to sentence him to the death penalty? I think he's about as useful as the murderers in jail, actually, even more useless. At least the murderers get their jobs done.
Wow. I don't agree with this paragraph. Please do not take his preface of "And I agree with MyTie..." to mean that the rest of the paragraph is my thoughts. Yuck.
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Modibybob
My stance is that captiol punishment should NOT exist, because the government doesn't have the right to end someone's life, which is an inaliable right.
Then they shouldn't have committed murder. It wasn't his right to take life either, unless it was self-defense.
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MyTie
@Gore - You're not thinking out side the box... you're explaining how Obama is more worthless than a murder, because they 'get the job done'. Pretty disgusting, dude. No matter how you try to justify that, expect me to distance myself from your "personal views and mockeries".
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MyTie
My stance is that captiol punishment should NOT exist, because the government doesn't have the right to end someone's life, which is an inaliable right.
Then they shouldn't have committed murder. It wasn't his right to take life either, unless it was self-defense.
I completely agree. I fail to see how this justifies capital punishment though.
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374287
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Modibybob
Capital punishment I suppose could be mostly justified by an 'eye-for-an-eye' mentality...although what did Ghandi say?
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
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260787
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MyTie
It was a mockery, get over it. Obviously it's not a real view and if you think that, then I've lost all faith in your intelligence. You're too uptight, anal and self-righteous.
Like I said, I wouldn't expect you to get it MyTie. We've tried this before in numerous debates and discussions.
It's not that I do or don't get the fundamental idea you were describing. It's not that I do or don't agree. Whatever message you had was lost in distasteful delivery. You're comments left the realm of philosophy and entered inappropriate.
Also, please keep calling me names. It's doing wonders to convince people of your arguments, and your maturity.
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