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Racism or Patriotism?
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Post by
Random0098
We have to be able to make some judgements in life. Like if I worked at a prison where the population were 50% child molesters, I wouldn't participate in the 'bring your kid to work day'. Am I prejuding the prison population?Judging that 50% are child molesters, but understanding that the other 50% aren't is what is important. (Edit: I probably wouldn't do the "bring your kid to work day" if I worked at a prison regardless of the presence of child molesters).
It's the generalizations that make the world fail.
Post by
MyTie
We have to be able to make some judgements in life. Like if I worked at a prison where the population were 50% child molesters, I wouldn't participate in the 'bring your kid to work day'. Am I prejuding the prison population?Judging that 50% are child molesters, but understanding that the other 50% aren't is what is important. (Edit: I probably wouldn't do the "bring your kid to work day" if I worked at a prison regardless of the presence of child molesters).
It's the generalizations that make the world fail.
Generalizing that all are bad because of 50% is equally as stupid as generalizing that all are good because of the other 50%.
Post by
Random0098
Generalizing that all are bad because of 50% is equally as stupid as generalizing that all are good because of the other 50%.
Well, that's a given, but nobody was trying to convince you to do that.
Post by
MyTie
Generalizing that all are bad because of 50% is equally as stupid as generalizing that all are good because of the other 50%.
Well, that's a given, but nobody was trying to convince you to do that.
Don't you see that it would take some 'pre judging' in order to come up with your non generalizations? Earlier you said that 'pre judging' is wrong. I'm saying it is right, to a degree.
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184848
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Post by
Random0098
Don't you see that it would take some 'pre judging' in order to come up with your non generalizations? Earlier you said that 'pre judging' is wrong. I'm saying it is right, to a degree.
And I'm saying that Judging is right, but Prejudging (
to judge before hearing or before full and sufficient examination
) is wrong.
Post by
MyTie
Don't you see that it would take some 'pre judging' in order to come up with your non generalizations? Earlier you said that 'pre judging' is wrong. I'm saying it is right, to a degree.
And I'm saying that Judging is right, but Prejudging (
to judge before hearing or before full and sufficient examination
) is wrong.
Fair enough. Too many people have sufficent evidence and would rather we gave out candy and flowers instead of faced truth... like the people who think the pirates should be released back to thier country.
Post by
Random0098
Whatever happened to the days when Pirates wore big hats, frilly shirts, and carried cutlasses?
Post by
240135
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Post by
MyTie
(nationalism is racism but instead of race, it is based on country)
Which makes it not racism at all. That's as ridiculous as:
A pie is a car, except it has nothing that a car has, and it is made of pie.
no, its like saying a motorcycle is like a car, but with two wheels instead of four
racism is a form of bigotry, so is nationalism, the difference is that nationalism you hate all other nationalities, and racism you hate all other races
A mortorcycle isn't a car. Nationalism isn't racism. You lose.
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Random0098
But I win, right?
Post by
MyTie
But I win, right?
Don't you always?
Post by
Random0098
But I win, right?
Don't you always?
This one time I came in second. :(
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240135
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Post by
MyTie
Nationalism is introspective. Bigotry, prejudice, etc, are not. I think this is the difference.
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240135
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Post by
MyTie
Nationalism is introspective. Bigotry, prejudice, etc, are not. I think this is the difference.
I should have been specific,
aggressive nationalism
, which is the belief that your country is better than any other country and that because of that all other countries should be destroyed (this is what hitler inspired in the nazis in order to take control and then attack all other countries), nationalism is just the belief that your country is better than all other countries (however, nationalism amounts to the same thing as bigotry, i.e. you treat all other countries like garbage because they aren't your country, even though the specific cause is different, i.e. with bigotry you hate them, therefore they are worse than you, with nationalism they are worse than you, therefore you hate them)
I agree with you, but your lack of understanding of simple defintions and grammer is eating you alive. You can tack 'agressive' onto anything and make it bad, or worse... Let's take a look:
Car Driver - mmmmkay
Agressive car driver - not so good
Doggie - bow wow
Agressive doggie - run away!
Potato - nummy
Agressive poptato - horror movie
None of these things are inherintly bad, until you put 'agressive' on the front of them. Nationalism isn't a bad thing. It certainly isn't bigotry. It is when you start looking down on other people for no reason other than they aren't you... that is bigotry, but it has ceased to be true nationalism.
Post by
Laihendi
Nationalism
excessive patriotism;
chauvinism
.
Chauvinism
zealous and aggressive patriotism or blind enthusiasm for military glory.
biased devotion to any group, attitude, or cause.
Militant devotion to and glorification of one's country; fanatical patriotism.
Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind
Dictionaries are cool.
Post by
Random0098
I changed my sig some more (I'm going to need a better quote from you though... it's ok, but could be better).
You know what else is cool? Ending threads at exactly 100 posts.
/thread!
Post by
Laihendi
I changed my sig some more (I'm going to need a better quote from you though... it's ok, but could be better).
You know what else is cool? Ending threads at exactly 100 posts.
/thread!
Nooo... now everyone will think Laihendi is a nerd :(
*runs to bedroom to play pokemon*
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