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Post by
oMSQo
Hello guys.
I would to know how should i put my PvP Tallents.... please help
Post by
Overhaul
Try
this
or
this
I am not sure if Improved righeous fury or Improved Devotion Aura is better. There may be better places for talent points, this is with my current knowlege of PvP.
Post by
svirve
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#siGorRdZIdua0bLZNsburko:ukq
P.S. It's harder to do the most fail build possible than one might think oO
Post by
Overhaul
O.o
wow, nice spec svirve. *sarcasm*
Post by
oMSQo
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#siGorRdZIdua0bLZNsburko:ukq
P.S. It's harder to do the most fail build possible than one might think oO
Fail haha
Post by
svirve
As i said it's harder than one might think to make the worst build ever.
I have to give you credit for figuring out the OP is a prot paladin though!
I certainly missed that part.
Post by
Overhaul
O.o you have a point... didn't know I jumped to that conclusion. I guess it is my biased of loving my prot pally showing up without knowing it.
Post by
oMSQo
I just wanted a pvp build... so hard to give one?(Retri tree)
Post by
svirve
I just wanted a pvp build... so hard to give one?(Retri tree)
Indeed it's hard when we dont know what kind of build you're interested in.
I could've given you 8-12 different builds for a pvp paladin.
But only 2 for a ret paladin.
0/19/52
(or variations of it) is probably the most common and accepted one.
11/8/52
is more of a im running with a healer in 2v2 and thus need aura mastery
I'd personally chose the first build but it's up to you.
Post by
00bender00
0/19/52
(or variations of it) is probably the most common and accepted one.
No! Dont take Righteous Vengeance! It will break repetance almost halving your peeling potential.
Better off with Eye for an Eye and full Fanaticism.
I just wanted a pvp build... so hard to give one?(Retri tree)
And you, mister, should read the sticky before posting.
So far there are tons of viable pvp specs for paladins, outside of Retribution.
Post by
svirve
0/19/52
(or variations of it) is probably the most common and accepted one.
No! Dont take Righteous Vengeance! It will break repetance almost halving your peeling potential.
Better off with Eye for an Eye and full Fanaticism.
Indeed my bad >.< i should start bookmarking the proper builds i suggest.
Instead of making mistakes from time to time.
Here
we go alot better now :)
I put the points in BoM since i prefer running with a higher DPS than another ~120 stam
Post by
00bender00
I put the points in BoM since i prefer running with a higher DPS than another ~120 stam
You still use untalented BoM, but take eye for eye.
It is designed giving you a chance equal to your reduced chance to be crit from resilience, to deal damage back. If you have 10% less chance to be crit from resilience, you have a 10% chance of dealing eye for an eye damage from any attack basicly. It doesnt scale negatively as you gear.
Ofc the smaller hits (normal hits) will be smaller then if they were crits, but it still outweights imp. BoM for me.
It deals very nice damage when you're focused, more then BoM ever could.
Though is more of a healer + ret setup (specially with druid), while for a ret + rogue you could consider improved BoM to max the opening burst.
Post by
svirve
That makes completely no sense if you read the tooltip:
All criticals
against you cause 20% of the
damage taken
to the attacker as well. The damage caused by Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.
Less criticals = less damage.
Smaller criticals = less damage.
Please if im missing anything inform me cause i've been putting this talent off as crap with the amount of resillience people are running with nowadays.
Post by
00bender00
Please if im missing anything inform me cause i've been putting this talent off as crap with the amount of resillience people are running with nowadays.
I informed you in my topic :)
As resilience started to kick in, alot of abilities that are activated by receiving critical strikes were scaling negatively.
So blizzard decided to give players wearing resilience an equal chance to these that dont, to proc these talents.
A warrior with 648 resilience will have 7.90% to proc
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16492
standing on a campfire.
A paladin with 648 resilience will have 7.90% to proc Eye for an eye from non-criticals.
Turn off your retribution aura, find any monster, make sure you are uncrittable
by resilience
.
You will see e4e procs if you spend enough time getting pounded, but you wont get any criticals from the mob.
Of course you will reflect 20% of the normal attack, but its still alot of fuel when you are hit for 2k+.
In conclusion it wil indeed proc for less, but it wont stop proccing even if you have 50000 resilience (let's assume there's no cap) and are never critted. :)
Post by
svirve
Please if im missing anything inform me cause i've been putting this talent off as crap with the amount of resillience people are running with nowadays.
I informed you in my topic :)
I must've missed that :)
As resilience started to kick in, alot of abilities that are activated by receiving critical strikes were scaling negatively.
So blizzard decided to give players wearing resilience an equal chance to these that dont, to proc these talents.
A warrior with 648 resilience will have 7.90% to proc
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16492
standing on a campfire.
A paladin with 648 resilience will have 7.90% to proc Eye for an eye from non-criticals.
Turn off your retribution aura, find any monster, make sure you are uncrittable
by resilience
.
You will see e4e procs if you spend enough time getting pounded, but you wont get any criticals from the mob.
Of course you will reflect 20% of the normal attack, but its still alot of fuel when you are hit for 2k+.
In conclusion it wil indeed proc for less, but it wont stop proccing even if you have 50000 resilience (let's assume there's no cap) and are never critted. :)
That changes alot of things i've always thought of E4E to be sub-par in arena but kinda useful in BG were people might not be as well geared.
Thanks for enlightening me on this subject! ;p
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