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A Solution to Frustrated 80s.
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Ilovemuffins
Ive heard some people complaining about needing gear to get in a good guild to run raids. Of course, the problem is, they want to raid to get good gear. To get good gear, you need to already have good gear, seems to be the problem.
I, however, have not heard of this problem on my realm, and that is for one reason only: we are too small. Low population servers are notorious for having slower progression rates. The reason for that is we need more players. We cant progress on a regular basis due to lack of resources (players, gear, skill). Unfortunately, we have to settle for players who are, at times, an obstacle for raiding. This slows the entire server. I'll give you an example, the top guild on our server has not downed Yogg-Saron yet, and only one guild has downed him on 10 man, both horde guilds. And the horde side has 3 times larger population than the alliance. My guild is the top alliance guild, and we are working on our first Watcher boss, Hodir. Sometimes, we get good guilds that blow through progression, usually due to a large import of players from other realms. Sadly, these guilds dont last more than a couple months, compared to my guild's two year record.
Here is the solution
If you are not getting raid gear because you need raid gear to get raid gear, transfer or reroll on a low population server, my battlegroup in particular. We need any players we can get, and though we'd prefer skilled players with experience, beggars cant be choosers. That goes for you as well. There are numerous guilds in my server, and others, that have naxx on farm, but not to the point of being elitists. They can take you in and show you the ropes and gear you up, hopefully. No garuntees, but its a better chance than what some of you have now.
as always, do your research. find out which servers and which factions need. For example, my server needs alliance. 3 to 1 horde to alliance ratio kills our chances at most things. This may be a deterrent to you, but at least you'll be raiding.
edit: erm...my realm is The Underbog and battlegroup is Retaliation, basically servers with BC zone names.
To anyone starting to play WoW for the first time, look for the recommended realms.
Post by
milomc98
i might have not read post properly....but is that US or EU server?
Post by
Ilovemuffins
US, it was not in there. But if you're EU, look at the low and recommended realms.
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Post by
lonewarrior
Ive heard some people complaining about needing gear to get in a good guild to run raids. Of course, the problem is, they want to raid to get good gear. To get good gear, you need to already have good gear, seems to be the problem.
It's called doing heroics. Seems every other 80 wants to skip that part and head straight for the raids. I had a member that just turned 80 and whispered when the next Naxx run was. sigh* I took him to Heroic Gundrak where he managed to get oneshotted by the first boss..he stop nagging me after that.
Running heroics doesn't mean just completing an heroic..getting your achievement and moving on..it means going back until you get the gear you need to drop.(took me 8 tries at heroic UP to get the Red sword of courage).It means doing dailies and wearing tabards in instances to earn faction points to get top gear and emblems to trade. It means deciding whether to spend a fortune to buy that fancy swift mount or spending the money to buy crafted epic gear to give you a good starting off point.
Go to warcrafter and check your gear rating. if your 1400+ your ready for raids..maybe not the hardest parts but you can do VoA...OS and early parts of Naxx. Of course higher geared members of a raid can offset that number downwards.
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Noxychu
Velen isnt that bad. ;p
Post by
Shamanic
It is pretty bad on my server because of high population, horde population is really high, a lot of guilds competing and trying to recruit each others members. Pugs will very frequently ask for achievements of completion before even considering you and there are elitists everywhere. There's also a massive number of ninja's, not just in hcs but in raids too where the master looter obviously and deliberately gives loot to guild members/friends regardless of rolls. Trade channel is just the mass spam channel varying from guild spam, actual trades, and most often infantile arguments that result in "your gay" or "your momma" comebacks (almost hourly, grab your popcorn!) and prices on everything are rock bottom where everyone tries to undercut everyone else, and someone always bottoms out the market.
But on the flip side, there are so many people that it was possible for some of us to start casual in a guild and although originally all 10 of our main team had never set foot in naxx before, we worked at it and cleared it and expanded to 25 mans and are now working our way through ulduar. In a low population server I guess it might not be possible to find enough people to start your own progression guild, as not everyone wants to join a serious guild and be dumped in at the deep end.
But before the guild got going, it was extremely frustrating from the sheer high numbers of idiots about. Overall I think I'd definitely take low population over high.
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Ilovemuffins
and a few 30's on underbog.
im leveling my shamman
Icantotem :D
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