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Enlightenment's haste bonus
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Post by
razzem
I'm trying to figure out where the haste bonus from
Enlightenment
shows up on the character tab.
Right now, only haste rating appears to be showing up on my character tab. For example:
When I'm in my regular gear
without Enlightenment
my haste rating is 65 (1.98% haste):
PoH cast time is
2.94 seconds
Flash heal is
1.47 seconds
When I'm in the same gear
with Enlightenment
my haste rating is 65 (1.98% haste)
PoH cast time is
2.77 seconds
Flash heal is
1.39 seconds
So where can I find this showing up? Or can I not hunt and track this down?
Post by
PrimeSonic
It doesn't show up anywhere. It just increases whatever Haste rating you have by the given percentage. It's kinda like how that 15% increase to Intellect doesn't show up anywhere either.
Post by
razzem
Well, when I'm naked and have 0 haste rating:
PoH = 2.83 seconds
Flash heal = 1.42 seconds
So it's not multiplying the haste I have, it must be giving a flat 6% increase.
Post by
Ethix
Honestly this hybrid stuff just doesn't scale well at all. Once you actually get some haste rating (my PoH is 2.6) there's no real need.
Post by
razzem
This isn't about the hybrid build, this is about understanding what this talent does for baseline stats.
Post by
PrimeSonic
Well, when I'm naked and have 0 haste rating:
PoH = 2.83 seconds
Flash heal = 1.42 seconds
So it's not multiplying the haste I have, it must be giving a flat 6% increase.
Now that I look at the numbers, that looks correct. Looks like it's "adding" 6% haste rating, just not showing it on your stats.
Post by
Elrael
Enlightenment is a odd ball, it counts like a outside buff! So you won't see on your char sheet (like the totem or the moonkin/paladin buff)
What we would expect is
haste from gear + enlightenment = total haste.
1.98% + 6 = 7.98%
With the formula
Formula: New Casting Time = (Base Casting time)/(1.%%)
We got:
Flash Heal -> 1.5/1.0798 = 1.388
PoH -> 3.0/1.0798 = 2.777
Round down your numbers should be:
PoH cast time is
2.78 seconds
Flash heal is 1.39 seconds
See, there is a minor difference. (Or I am paranoid)
Which leads to my conclusion: You first get haste from gear, then the haste from enlightenment.
Flash Heal -> (1.5/1.0198)/1.06 = 1.388
PoH -> (3.0/1.0198)/1.06= 2.774
Round down your numbers should be:
PoH cast time is
2.77 seconds
Flash heal is 1.39 seconds
(Seriously, 0.01 seconds difference, what a rip off Blizzard)
This seems to confirm that enlightenment works after char sheet haste, and that is the reason why it's not on your char sheet. It really counts as a extra (passive, hidden) buff.
Post by
292117
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Post by
Elrael
pwew 1.39 vs 1.42 ........
is this talent any worth ? Im not trying to be funny, just curious if there is a real bonus from it. My reaction speed is more than .03 ;P
Short reply:
It's 1.47 untalented and 1.39 with talents
Haste provides low numbers, but overall is a lot. Basically 6% healing means 6% more HPS when spam healing.
Most Disc Priest haste caps assume you got enlightenment.
The 6% increased spirit is nice amount of extra regen.
There isn't really any other talent you take instead enlightenment.
So maybe it's not the most bonus per talent point but it does provide a lot and is nice to have.
Post by
GenXCub
It doesn't show it on your stats because it's not haste RATING.
Just like talents that add hit rating, like Precision don't increase the character tab's hit RATING area.
Post by
karlusdavius
It doesn't show it on your stats because it's not haste RATING.
Just like talents that add hit rating, like Precision don't increase the character tab's hit RATING area.
He makes a good point, but i don't like his use of caps...
Post by
GenXCub
Apologies if it seems like I was being patronizing, I should have bolded, but caps is quicker :) I was just trying to put emphasis on the rating part, and that % is different from rating points.
Post by
273446
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Post by
razzem
it is a
perecent
of your
total
haste, so it is
not
a flat out .03, as your haste rating goes up, the benefit of this talent goes up
edit: typos blah
This is not how this talent works, from the numbers that I've seen and what Elrael has posted. This will not increase your total haste based on your haste rating. The flat 6% haste from this talent will be added to whatever haste rating you have.
@GenX I didn't take offense to the caps, and I wasn't even thinking in terms like that... rating vs flat talent. I was thinking I should be able to see it... For instance, with my druid, there is a talent for Expertise, not expertise rating. I should have thought of it in those terms, but thanks for bringing that up, it makes it more understandable.
On another note, well, more thoughts on this later :D
Thanks for all who replied.
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